VWD ... Ok if its going to keep getting set back on Renderosity, How do I purchase it Via Paypal? I am tired of waiting for this is there a way I can?

@VWD : I hope that Daz does not hold back the release of the Poser version of this plugin. I noticed that you are talking over there and I just worry about that. I would rather have it released here on Renderosity.

Seeing you here right this minute.....Has Daz been working with getting Genesis into Vue? Simple question Oop I mean with or with out poser in the equation...lol

Funny thing about that....Do you realize how long joint fixes have been around and they are just starting to show up now? I seen someone trying to explain how they were done years ago (about 10 to be exact) on victoria 2. So that has been in the works for a long time (and i wouldnt say it was Daz doing or poser doing that work). I was people like you and me trying to figure it out in a community just like this one.

Well would you consider Jeffs head moving from side to side a perfect match?....lol And that was an attempt but if you look closely....lol its just Mega Tron. Daz does give you good options in the direction (but I couldn't say because that wouldn't be artistic of me after all its a painting made by many) get it? Its not like you started from scratch to make your moving picture is it? I think I read somewhere it was called the doppelganger efect or something. I need to go farther with this......sorry.......I remember when I was about 13 or 15 and I was copying points in space (X,Y,Z cords) into an Atari Computer Modeling program (lol long process) and it made a Wire Frame Tie Fighter That I could Type in Camera Cords (remember no mice in those days) and have it view it from different angles. And then.....I shut off the computer and it was gone for good unless i typed it in again.

Its very hard to standardize an inovation. Cars run on Steam, Gas, Electricity, or Nuclear Power, which one do we drive today? That is the problem all 3d software makers face (but standards are a choice of the masses in the long run by what they buy...lol (I brought Poser and Daz this year and I change Tires for a living and live at home with my parents).

Well I think it is really cool that they are expanding. You know how good that Sub-d inside all 3d graphics programs would drastically imporve things? Vue Infinite uses it ;) , And I believe Zbrush uses a form of it. Have you seen some of the art coming out of that (boy wouldn't I love buy character made with it). Think of it in the terms of progress and progress takes time and inovation (and a newer computer in some cases for it to look better). Ohh....Thats right Renderosity has a few (and Daz I'm sure).

Ok let me post a negative one in a positive. I want to be able to show what Genesis can do. ;)

Quote - If I could say one thing and have it be the only thing you would hear it would be... Give us some time to work on this. Its not easy and we are making it happen as fast as it can happen. Its our goal to have Genesis completely native in Poser so that we can all go back to being a happy community of artists again.

You know that statement in itself show the direction I see this going. Now just let me give a simple statment in return. I do believe and see this going in the right direction. And. I do believe I am seeing results. I see Daz as a company that wants to expand there market like any other company. I am sure it will refuse on being stretched so thin it denies its roots, the original market that it grew from, but, that being said I also see it streching into what looks like a mainstream in 3D figure marketing ;). If you looked from the outside in really well enough you could see that it wants to grow closer to the gaming and animation industry. FBX, COLLADA, and other exports can make that posible. But what people fail to under stand is that there "is no Standard" in these between aplication. But its slowly becoming one. The last standard used by a very high precentage of the 3d world in animation is still OBJ. but Daz being very inovative is putting a spark in there I hope will stay in..........Just Thing About It. Its not an easy road but 10 years ago I couldnt do alot I can now. And I don't have the pocket for AutoSomething ;), never have!