This is hello and goodbye for me. I've been posting fractals here for only a few weeks, but the ranking system is very upsetting for me, and last night when I tried to make a new fractal image I couldn't even do it. So I am going to remove them now. If anyone here is interested in them, they will still be on my own site (searching for 'john mitchell' is the quickest way to find it). Vicky Brago-Mitchell