hi flick thanks a lot for this allaround answer. although the message is bad (that bryce IS slow) it helped me to scale my rendertime-expectations. 30 h+? holy shit! i build this machine espacially to render (512 mb ram, 2pent3 866mghz, expensive! graphics card and enough storage, windos2000) and was really disappointed when it was only about twice as fast as my older machine (single 200mghz pentium2) when using bryce. in max it flies. but nevertheless i'll keep on using that superbe programm because of the fun within! thanx for your listing of timekillers, it made me aware of some things i didn't consider so far. marcel

ah, and the task manager sometimes gives the state:poser 4 not responding, after it has rendered that first picture :)

i was just rendering the last picture and not a whole movie (250 of 250 , the whole animation takes 23 mg, which are still there) when this message came, but i'm not able to give a new order now; it just starts to render that first-picture (not the last anymore) over and over, after each command. i think i let it render to the end, because i don't have a counter which counts the picture already rendered. :)

hi ft being an architect, and startet to use bryce 4 for a week now, i'd love to see more cities. i made a little sketch of my idea, but dunno how 2 post it here. send me your direct email, and i'll send it 2 u. ( or explain me how 2 post an image here in this forum) i checked out your other work too and like it a lot ! keep on !