Mellygrl 3pts Shadow Dancer 2pts diaxus2 1pt my vote needed to change after doing my homework on the contest rules:)

http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=650161 http://www.ez-zone.co.uk/digital/unexpectedparty.htm

dually noted ty randy:) - Thomas

thank you fredy i appreciate the input this means we can treat ourselves to a christmas present:) - Thomas

yes daz has a product available by the name of "the taylor" and in the tutorial section of daz you can learn exactly how to use it:) - Thomas

out of curiosity what formats are available on the discs my wife and myself own bryce, poser, and cinema 4d so to purchase models that are non compliant would be unintelligible at best and the ad shows wonderful models just without listing formats such as .obj, 3ds, max, ect. ect. ect. i would greatly appreciate any input T.I.A. :) - Thomas

basically if you take jvr's advice is just move the whole figure into the position desired what he showed you will give an exact replica of the original snake just reverse it a you have your two entwined snakes may need a bit of tweaking but jv knows his poser:) - Thomas

isis you do some amazing work i've never had a negative thing to say about it and i'll critique i wont spout off with a personal cut what i do is constructive in some cases i'm wrong but art is in the eye of the beholder....... or is that beauty, well it works either way- Thomas

thank you i agree whole heartedly i didn't mean spending money it seems that the users who spend the most time in chat are also some of the users with the viewings if you want some major view counts waste your time there you'll get em especially if your part of the clique i'm not i offended everyone in chat at one time or another but thats me i speak my mind but yes it is its like a bunch of school kids and i don't about you but i finished the clique thing right after i finished school thing i found it very superficial to be honest no offense intended to anyone -Thomas

they limit it to three per day as of right now but i know what you mean and you may be right but it may detour some artists from posting here and as you know its a business we are the customers but the more frequent a customer is the more preferential care they recieve so the chances of limiting the total number of postings are slim - Thomas

i know that the scenario wont change if u can get warnings because people don't approve of a critisism then why bother commenting with something other than ass kissing believe me i know all to well so now if i want to remark on a piece of work and how it can be improved i do it with the messenger sad that the world it scared to change even if its for the better