firecircle posted at 5:14 PM Mon, 2 May 2022 - #4438041

as for community i do not care i just want the question answered and apoligise is spelt with an s

Definition of Abandonware:

Abandonware is a product, typically software, ignored by its owner and manufacturer, and for which no official support is available.[1]

Within an intellectual rights contextual background, abandonware is a software (or hardware) sub-case of the general concept of orphan works. Museums and various organizations dedicated to preserving this software continue to provide legal access.

-Ignored by its owner: no. Bondware is currently hard at work on updates, and it can be purchased in the store.
-No official support is available: no. Support can be reached from the Posersoftware site easily.
-Orphan works: no. Legal access is still provided by the company's store, easily and readily.

Thus: the answer is no. Next.

Also kinda funny to see someone call a honest reply "childish", and then nag people about spelling.

Also²: if you don't care about the community, why should the community care about you and your questions?

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 8:05 AM Wed, 4 May 2022 - #4438108

I was, I am and I'm pretty sure that I will remain in love with your responses...

Thank you and by the way much respect

love the reply by the user who proudly states they use octane as a render engine-ironic (:

Apologise is spelled with an 's' if you follow the British spelling. Us uncooth, rude and childish USians spell it with a 'z'.

If you don't care for the community, why are you here? Serious question--this is a forum, after all.

Finally, progress!!  Which version of Python did you write your code?  You are aware that since the last update, Bondware had elected to update Poser to Python 3, abandoning the Python 2 platform.  It did break many related scripts, frustrating many users in the process.  IMO, a necessary evil if you are concerned about cybersecurity.  Yes, it sucks but I've gotten over it.  

BTW, my written statement is my opinion and I do not apologize for it.  Everybody has gotten off the wrong foot in this thread, so let's dispense with the unpleasantries and try to work together as a community to address these problems.

What specific bugs are those that are presenting problems for you and have tickets been submitted to bring them to the attention of the technical staff?  Admittingly, I think we are overdue for another update but rewriting code does take time, especially if you want to maintain the integrity of the existing program without breaking sub-modules or overhauling the entire program to the point that all the old content won't work anymore.  The hostile overtone of this thread will only get it shut down with no meaningful outcome at the end.

If I'm not wrong, they seem to focus on Cycles2's evolution and bug corrections plus on a real support for Unimesh, at least that was the feeling I've had during a session last year.

Seems a wee bit early to suggest that. It would be nice to hear what they are currently working on though. There are some big things that I would like to see that might take a while to implement (e.g. realtime cycles preview). It's not always practical to do new releases every month (or more, as they had been doing).

Answer is no. Next.

I'm no 'Insider', but I've used Poser since freebie P3 off magazine cover-disk, albeit with a sad gap in middle due computer woes and family priorities...

IMHO, Smith Micro left a grim legacy of neglected 'ToDos', some of which have already been addressed. These were the 'urgent' and/or 'low-hanging' tasks.

There's a lot of exasperating UI issues, mostly 'list handling', as modern models may have many more materials etc than fit on a 'single page'.

And, I suspect, the 'trash collection' system needs a serious overhaul. A 'gas gauge' for resource usage would be nice...

Snag is stuff like the Python version change and Cycles' bugs are rooted deep, deep into Poser's code. They'll take a lot of fixing, mostly to prevent breaking anything else.

If 'Unimesh' is seen as the way forward, it would seem to up-end 'traditional' Poser figure rigging. Which, incidentally, I never figured beyond 'BoxMan', and that on a good day.

Corollary, I suppose, is that current I/O for rigged figures is 'on hold' until 'Unimesh' .

Upside, I must hope 'Unimesh' will ease import of other formats such as XPS and PMX, both props and rigged figures...

firecircle posted at 2:17 PM Sun, 1 May 2022 - #4437984

does not really answer the question- i am not american

I'm not american as well (sorry I don't the relation with the title of this thread), I'm not paid by Bondware, nor am I paid by daz, the program of which is... "100% non-bugged", as are most other programs in this domain...

And no: Poser has functioned rather correctly during the last 20 years. Bugs leave along programs, bacause we're all humans (and thus not perfect), because among the humans that are part of the process, there are the financiers, always ready to save money (and thus sometimes lowering the final quality)

On the contrary: this partially answers the question: abandoned? no, just focusing on one or two things at  time instead of focusing on ntf's. Your feeling of abandoned-ware may come from the fact that since CuriousLab, only SM did a huge step long time ago, and than stopped. But since Bondware took over, and since their first Poser12 official version (12.0.276, on nov 7, 2020), not less than 21 versions appeared

Don't feed the troll.....

this software has not worked well for over twenty years-fix it

Seems a wee bit early to suggest that. It would be nice to hear what they are currently working on though. There are some big things that I would like to see that might take a while to implement (e.g. realtime cycles preview). It's not always practical to do new releases every month (or more, as they had been doing).

does not really answer the question- i am not american