Should be here: ftp://206.47.20.162/pub/Bryce/ or web http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel/Products/Downloads&id=1042551234521

Attached Link: http://www.pctip.ch/downloads/dl/19869.asp

Dial-up hell! Me too, living out in the back of beyond where BT are yet to connect up enough pieces of string to invent broadband in these here parts!

Yep, it's the demo version corel had on their site. 58megs in all!

Attached Link: http://web.coehs.siu.edu/Utilities/Graphics/Bryce/Bryce5TrialVersion.exe

Some useful links here. http://www.pixelarcana.com/Tutorials/Bryce_rain/tutorial_bryceraintext.pdf http://www.brycetech.com/tutor/bryce/rain.html http://www.robinwood.com/Catalog/Technical/BryceTuts/BryceClasses/BBryce4/BBryceLesson4-4.html

That type of presumption must also lead you to brand folks like me a "pirate". I have bryce, poser5, Cinema4d 8, Vue, Deep Exploration, Painter8 ,PSP and Zbrush. I use but a few of these and do not even have them all loaded on my PC at present but will get around to them one day. Still, I seem to remember buying them and having neither hooked hand nor a parrot, I am no high seas bandit. You missed out a somewhat obvious possibility, drac, and that it some people have enough cash on their hands to buy what they like, as I do. If you need to be the greatest 3D master to own these then I have not heard of this rule but maybe you know better. I don't really care for the, guilty by presumption and cynicism attitude, and neither I suspect, will others.

How come my imported models looks crap! How can I smooth them and get rid of all those ugly ridges? How do I select objects placed behind other ones without dragging them all over ther place? What's with the naked poser folks and their awful solid hair and how do I fix it?

No, but use XP pro with both without any problems. Service packs from microsoft are notoriously crap, and it seems much more reliable to pick and choose the updates you need. Have not had any trouble with XP up till now!

Take out the first bit of http:// You only need it once, easily done. Nice site, thank you.

Anyone who needs it, let me know and I'll try and get it to you. Probably compress the hell out of it with WinRar! And yes, the file opens fine in bryce, the image shows the model in 3D exploration as a PRJ which bryce will happily load. Mat.