I don't use C4D, but some of those tools look pretty cool... Maybe I'll write a plugin for LW that does the same things.

One thing I learned from Moe about cloth is to use tris, not quads. The hold their shape better when you pull em around to make the cloth smooth and flowing. Other than that I'm not much help. i0n

I wouldn't wear them personally, but those are some really cool glasses. And who cares what program it was modeled in, it only makes you stronger if you can do what isn't 'supposed' to be done....

I know exactly how you handle one.... You handle two! Hold one in each hand and twirl around like a damn lawnmower flipping and spinning and chopping and slicing! 8^)