Maybe we should just take down everything that has to do with religion, the angels, the devils, and I have seen many of these images that depict violence and no one says a word. Browse the galleries and tell me you dont see tons of violence, blood, torture etc. Why are people so sensitive when it comes to Christ? Yes, there are many other aspects of his life she could have depicted but this is what Peace meant to her.... I still say it should be allowed!!!

Do you not understand that the birth of Christ is what Christmas is and depicting any portion of his life and the peace that he stood for, is Christmas?? He was born on Christmas and gave his life on the cross.... I dont get where you are coming from at all!!

I agree, it deserves to be in the contest! If Christ isnt the meaning of peace, I dont know what is. The censorship is getting a little out of hand on this site and how you pick and choose what is right and what is wrong is just out of line. She did an outstanding work of art that portrays her feelings of peace, PUT IT BACK IN THE CONTEST!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont think that is the point at all Hythshade. I think its more of people saying its wonderful just for the sake of saying something when there are obvious things wrong. Have you never looked at an image that was really sloppy and there were 25 comments all saying how perfect it was? I dont think its a matter of how many comments you get, its the quality and honesty of them. If it is a wonderful render, then by all means say its wonderful. I think alot of people are bothered by the obvious, comments that are untrue just not to make waves. There are always ways to kindly help someone out on something that might be overlooked or something they had no idea on how to do. Appreciating someones hard work is a good thing too. But, you have to realize there is a middle ground where its nothing but BS, and I think that is where some of the problems come in. I think that some people mention that when someone has 40 or 50 comments that they dont comment because at that point, what can you say that doesnt sound like you are repeating everyone else? But 40-50 comments on a sloppy picture just because of the name on the post and not the quality of the work, it another thing all together. hope that clarifies some :)

I think constructive criticism done in a polite way is the most important thing we can give each other. How will we ever learn little tips and tricks, see things from anothers eyes unless we are open-minded. If comments are just to stoke the egos of the poster, maybe then there will be hard feelings. Maybe they should have their own sites so that adoring fans will flock to them and stroke their egos all they need. I havent been here long so I am careful about suggestions I may make due to lack of experience on the technical issues. On one of my first images I got a message from someone telling me how to direct the eyes so they arent staring blankly and I was so thrilled!!! I didnt have a clue how to do that! I see images from people that have been here for ages with tons of postings with their people staring blankly at nothing and I wonder how they would take it if that suggestion was made to them? I have no problem when I see an image I really like to say how beautiful it is, after all, with all the work and effort put in, it deserves it. But to do it by who's name is on the image is just wrong. How sad that we cant find a happy center point where we can kindly help each other out. If you do your art just for yourself and you dont care what people say, or dont think comments are important, then turn them off or keep your pictures in your own little puter and look at them all you want. But I am here to learn, be inspired, and communicate with others traveling the same path. And, there are some here, that want to make a living with their art and for them, honest opinions are crucial and I am sure they are trusting the memebers to be honest with them. I agree with above that saying things like, I dont like that color hair, well thats personal and really not necessary, if it was your picture then you could make the hair any color you want. But, honest things like, the hair is sticking straight into her skin,or the pose is great but she really isnt sitting on the wall, try moving her back, well that is something that needs correcting. Pointing this out, little flaws and details will help the artist to be more aware of the little details, and not just throw things together for the sake of getting something up to post. I for one am looking for the honest opinions and if you honestly like it, well say that too, thats cool by me :) LOL nuff of me carrying on !

I can hardly see posting to the forum and wading through tons of posts to find images, not a very productive way to do it.

well uh.... isnt that what we have been saying?

I just dont get it, you claim you dont care about comments then why post it, keep the image to yourself and look at home all you want and save the gallery space. I for one am looking for honest opinions and helpful suggestions so that I can better myself, and hopefully people will see something I might have missed. I am learning poser and am pretty new to all of this so I am here to learn. But to say you post and dont care if you dont get comments, why post to a gallery that is for that???????? yer bullshittin us on that one!

i think like most places, the real meaning and idea behind the first post is completely lost on some people. who cares who the person who wrote it is? basicly seems like they are saying they are not going to be complacient and say nothing about dishonesty and following the masses. Anyones whos advice is oh well just deal instead of trying to instigate change is just as bad. The top twenty is supposed to reflect the best of this site and it doesnt,does anyone even give two shits ? i think some people are focusing on some minor not important points in that post. its not who it is, or if their images get into top twenty it's more about unfairness, in a place where it should be about the ART. Seeing amazing artists getting very little reconition for their amazing contributions to this site, Honesty shouldnt be crucified when it goes against the masses if the opinion is honest. how can we change that? can it be changed? If you say you dont care what others think or if you get comments why do you post in a public gallery that focuses on comments, why not make a private web page where people can just look? I think alot of people post here to get help by constructive comments and encouragement so that they can develop and grow. The flocking to the "popular" artists just to stroke egos by giving them comment number 100 on image 300 that looks the same as the previous 299 is really non productive and doesnt encourage growth and development. Some of these people post several times a day and I rarely see them take the time to comment on others. To me, this looks like a butt kissing session than a display of qaulity art.If they arent doing for ego sake maybe they should disable comments. isnt the point of poser gallerys anyways to display poser images and not images that have been totally redone in postwork. Shouldnt that be mixed media or photoshop? just my humble opinion :)

cant wait for it to get here!! the other set is awesome!