Now I see... thanks for clarifying. : )

Thanks for your answer, Wabe. I will probably will organise my stuff in a similar way...particularly keeping new downloads separate from the things that install with the app . I'm not sure what you mean about different versions of Vue... do you keep older versions installed even if you upgrade ? 4 is the earliest I have but it's no longer installed on my HD. If I have understood correctly why do you do that ? And do you know of that version conversion utility I have come across mentions of ?

GPFrance ,we posted at the same time. The picture is real help, now I can get it all the way reset . Thanks.

This morning I had to laugh too...what a mess I made last night . Anyway thanks both for the help ! g&c -I will definately do what you suggest from now on. polax- the copy/paste option of the whole scene didn't seem possible but I've managed to reset the main camera to something like a default. Oh the joys of learning new software !!

@LMcLean- just wondering is it still running ok for you ? Because yesterday I installed the side grade from 5d'esprit to 5.09Inf. and had a similar problem under Mac 10.4.5.... it opened the first time but after that Vue crashed with a fatal error each time I tried to open it again. So having already seen this thread I trashed that install,and fixed permissions, re-installed did permissions again and did a restart before opening Vue ... now it seems to run fine though I haven't had it open for any real lenght of time yet. I have only the minimum running at the same time anyway.