Khai, I could be putting the "tone of voice" of someone else I know into your words. That was assumptive of me. I apologize.

Quote - "It is funny that he has not come back with any comments on this situation.  But then maybe this is just another one of those lets get people bitching at each other posts just to get people annoyed. "

or he could be back in Hospital with heart problems. if you read back a few threads, he's just come back from near collapse and a anigram.

so lets not accuse him of something that he's not done ok?

I'm sure the majority of us don't read every single thread in every poser forum. I have no problem with your pointing out that we all should be more careful about making accusations without knowing mitigating circumstances. I mean it seems like accusations are one of the things that the poser community is best at (and, yes, I'm sure I've been guilty of it myself). However, I do have a problem with the way you worded it. You could've just stated the facts and said "give the guy the benefit of the doubt" instead of couching it in such a bitchy, confrontational way.

Okey doke. I see where you're coming from. I do kind of like the idea of the "freebies" that aren't allowed for commercial renders being in a seperate section and designated as such. :) It would save download time.

From the readme of the P5 velvet shaders:

"Thank you for downloading this RDNA Free Package!

The files enclosed in the file are free to use for all commercial and non-commercial/personal renders.

Files may not be re-distributed without our express permission, and under no circumstances are any

part or whole of these files to be used for a commercial 3D product."I

If the shaders are so simple to make then why is Starkdog trying to distribute Traveler's instead? A really good shader can be a very complicated set up in the material room and is not just "dial spinning".

So, Miz, you have no problem if I take part of your freebies and redistribute them with my own stuff? Even if it's a commercial product? So basically I can rip you off and that's okay 'cause after all it was only a freebie?! I SO disagree with your viewpoint!

Anyway, if you download a freebie and don't like the stipulations set out in the readme then delete the freebie (since it doesn't qualify as "free" in your definition.) Don't bitch and whine that the creator is being selfish because they have stipulations. That's their perogative. Just like I'm not going to go to lunch with someone I don't like just because they're paying. I'm also not going to complain when that person refuses to give me money for said "free lunch" instead.

I'd also like to beat the dead horse that says this whole stupid arguement could've been avoided if Starkdog would've initially addressed his questions directly and privately to Trav.

Hey, Dan, while you're here, I'd like to ask if there's any problem with those of us who downloaded Lilin2 continuing to use her in our renders?
Thanks,
Julia

Thanks for the heads up!

Just downloaded Furrette 2.0. Thank you very much! :-)

Tracy, I don't think anyone who entered the contest is angry with you. I'm definitely not. Okay, maybe you messed up by not checking with an admin first, but as you said, contests were being run in the galleries before now. So, it seems like an honest mistake, and I see no reason for you to receive an 'official' warning. The polite and professional thing to do would have been to 'unofficially' notify you that you were violating their rules and give you a chance to rectify the matter (call a halt to the contest, IM the entrants to let them know the contest had been postponed and they would need to take 'contest' out of their image title or risk having it deleted, etc.) Such drastic measures as deleting work from people's galleries should not have been undertaken without notice. That is the action that I'm appalled and angered by (and I'm one of the fortunate ones. For some reason my image didn't get deleted and I've now changed the title in an attempt to keep it safe. I just feel badly for everyone who did lose things from their galleries). So please don't beat yourself up over this, and anyways it sounds like there were 3 or 4 other contests currently running, there's no way you can hold yourself responsible for those contests suffering the same fate (or old contest images being deleted). ;-)
Hugs, Julia

Just editing to say that when I refer to images being lost, what I really mean is the comments. I'm assuming most people really do keep back up images (although if like someone mentioned if your backup is damaged and then your image gets yanked from here without warning...well, you're screwed).

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for some people entering contests is HOW they practise their art. It's what inspires them to challenge themselves to do better.

This is really cute hair! Thanks for doing the HER fit pose. That's what made me decide to buy this now instead of just putting it on my wish list. I think HER is a great figure and would love to see more vendors supporting her(HER). :)

Very, very impressive! This is definitely a must have!!!!