... is a major point for most people of the current user base. And as others have written before: Mojo does have the better architecture, but their approach requires much more learning and the learning curve is steeper. Actually I'm not hoping for investors, but for a release as open source. That would allow to integrate the cool parts of it into other 3D programs (I absolutely love the texture engine...), to fix bugs and to save it's long time survival. Investors might use just the parts they are interested in and dispose the rest of it in some dusty place... Folks, this is really sad. Maybe I should work out a Bryce skin for Cinema... Klaus

Quite a couple of programs use them, but most only support 8 bit or 3x8bit Heightmaps, which is pretty bad compared to the 16 bit the true renderers provide ;-) Klaus

Hey PJF, if you would like to elaborate your tip further that's fine with me ;-)) Regarding the noise: I would not see that as a limitation. In fact, it creates a kind a haptic feel to it that's often missed in 3D work. So, keep up the good work Klaus (2:21 am, just coming from the cinema ;-)

WOW!

PJF, I have to say, that for the first time I see a striking reason to use true ambience for certain things! You might know that I have a tip for traditional techniques for that problem on my BSolution pages [BIG, modem users beware ;-].

Would you allow me to include a smaller version of that picture and your technique there? Of course your contribution will be note appropiatly! Certainly a way to get some eternity for your tip, the page is there for 4.5 years and is still responsible for most of my network traffic ;-)

Best regards! Klaus

Attached Link: http://bsmmoth.de/Bsolutions

Hi folks, gosh, don't start to eat you out there! As another beta tester all I can say is: Look at the pictures that are available at brye5.net, or at my site: http://bsmooth.de/bryce5 Be careful though, not everything is exactly what is may seem at the first glance. However, you should clearly get an idea if you take the time to *study* the pictures - we can also speak to you through our pictures. IMO Bryce 5 is absolutely worth the upgrade. Vue may be a nice program, but personally I don't like to pay for each plant I get and mess around with keys and stuff.