Thank you, Kristi.  I never doubted someone at Rendo would take care of it sooner than later.

You take care.

kmw

Thx.

My wife loved it.  :)

kmw

I am honored.  Thank you.

richardson: "Scroll to poser and see how much RAM you're really using and remember a number to stay below" Scroll where? And how do I know how much RAM I'd need for any specific scene to render...? thanx in advance kmw

Thanx, MaryK. The problem was different tho. I was doing exactly that and still getting a render same sized as the preview. But I discovered what I was doing wrong: I'd set the dimensions to double the size, but I still had the Render tab set to 'Half'. Appreciate yr time. take care kmw

dialyn: "And if I protest it, you will faithfully accuse me of not having a sense of humor." No, I would have never done that. I had no idea this was not an issue to be poked at. I was going for a giggle. Not to insult or belittle the proceedings. I apologize and I'll stay out of your way. kmw

hmmmm... BDC and xoconostle: Could you relate the details of your piracy? I mean, how'd you find out your work was being used, what you did, etc. I think the details would be quite fundamental to the rest of us. kmw

Well, xoconostle, I wasn't speaking of the naive. I was talking about the guy down the street selling the bootlegs... that guy who, let's be honest, doesn't give a crap about you, me, or our hard work.

This isn't about optimism. It's about practicality. Believing Render's warning will stop at least one small child from breaking the law? Well, that's nice. But let's face it. That's an honest, moral individual. Which is why I'm not worried about them to begin with.

take care

kmw

Message edited on: 05/04/2005 16:56

Yes, NN. Until we find ourselves in the shoes of a Stephen King, people like you and I have a decision to make about work: protect them (i.e., keep them to ourselves) or put them out there for the world to enjoy (and risk exposing ourselves to theft). For now I go with the former. At least in regard to my renderings. I tend to be a bit more guarded with my fiction tho. Anything I've posted has been written specifically for upload to some site.

kmw

Message edited on: 05/04/2005 14:59

A fine gesture indeed but ultimately meaningless. I mean, if copyright issues meant anything to someone who'd steal somebody else's work, I couldn't walk up the street and buy a bootleg copy of a certain highly-anticipated film that won't even be released for another three weeks. And this guy could go to JAIL for his actions. Who do you thinks gonna have a prob with Render's tag line about ownership? There right at this moment could very well be some smuck in Nova Scotia making a fortune off your/my images. And you/I'll probably never even find out, let alone do anything about it. Render's intent to protect us is greatly appreciated but we need to also consider that tho we own the work simply having created it, presenting it to the public in venues like this leave every single one of us wide open to being ripped-off. It's a sad, but irrefutable, fact. kmw

XENOPHONZ: "And get richer. Which is what we would all like to do, right?" Where do I sign up? If you find out, then please IM me with the information." Oh to hell with the IMs, my friend. We'll get on the train and go together! kmw

XENOPHONZ: "You are to be commended."

Thank you for the compliment. But let's face it, being combative (i.e., attacking a Mod for closing a thread) isn't the way to go. I'd prefer to PM that Mod directly. I don't like fighting in the street. I'd rather go back in the alley.

XENOPHONZ: "I don't know how they grow the cops up in NYC, but if you were to address a cop where I live that way -- you'd be in for a bad night. In a bad place. With really bad people for company."

Well, I can't say it'd be different in New York...

Let's put it in perspective tho. I'm the most even-tempered, patient person you're ever going to meet. I'm the one most likely to stand there a good twenty minutes waiting for you to do something you said you'd do thirty minutes ago. But when I do pop, it's a done deal.

Would I verbally insult a cop? Yes. But understand said cop would've pushed me to a limit that I'd be unable to return from. I don't jump in people's faces at the drop of a dime. Badge or otherwise. But once I've lost my temper, it's over. And I've never been one to bitch about the consequences of my action. I'd simply have to suck up and deal with what comes next...

XENOPHONZ: "There's no percentage for a website owner in allowing the SNF crowd to run their forums for them. Because that's what they'll do, if they are given the opportunity."

Agreed. But as I state in an earlier post here, I think threads have been shut down because of topic, not behavior. And as rdonovan hints, maybe because of WHOM was involved.

XENOPHONZ: "...but, in reality, they don't have anything like the huge following that they want to believe that they do."

Well, that's true of almost any zealot, isn't it? People who scream on behalf of the masses.

XENOPHONZ: "It's always a high point for the ridiculous to see the administrations that run those ultra-successful websites repeatedly told that they have no idea what they are doing."

Again, that's human nature. Walk thru most business environments, move down the ladder and the attitude about the incompetence of the people above increases exponentially, doesn't it? There will always be a part of us that resents the power in others (i.e., MODs who can close threads) and the belief we could do a better job.

XENOPHONZ: "And get richer.

Which is what we would all like to do, right?"

Where do I sign up?

kmw

rdonovan: "... it's interesting how the same half a dozen or so names keep jumping out - posters whose posts, out of ignorance or malice, seem intended to cause discord." Can't say I've noticed that. But I can't say I'd be surprised either. It probably leans towards why someone in authority might have a tighter rein on certain threads. kmw

XENOPHONZ: "A more apt comparison would be if you were standing on the street corner in New York, and a cop told you to 'shut up'. ... Respond to a cop by saying 'Or what?'......and you might find out."

HA! Never met me, have you? Telling a cop to shut the f*^#k up wouldn't give me a second's thought. Especially if I thought his words/behavior were unjustified. If I thought the cop was disrespecting me without warrant, yeah, I'd say it. Now if I knew I was wrong, if I KNEW I was out of line and gave him reason -- a RIGHT -- to say it? Well, I'd shut up. Of course, I'd do that if the other guy was a plumber. A badge isn't a free pass with me.

I grew up in the South Bronx, amigo. Remind me to tell you about the night this yellow cab made an illegal left turn and tore off my bumper. Better yet, let my wife tell you. Or the two cops who were there.

XENOPHONZ: "But when a cop (or other authority figure) comes along and tells the bully to behave himself -- the reaction can be quite similar to that of a three-year-old being told to settle down."

Hmmm. I suppose. But I'm not sure how the analogy applies to Render, its threads and how we're discussing them here.

Are you saying Render's a cop, the, for lack of a better word, complainers are bullies and when Render exerts authority, you get a lot of whining?

I'm not trying to be a wise guy, X. I really am curious.

Still, I'll admit you make some points. In truth, tho I started this topic I'm not sure how I feel either way. [What Render does just isn't important enough to my day...] I do lament that a general topic forum can be marginalized. It just seems ironic. It likes being told you can eat what you want and then seeing there's only baloney on the table.

By the way, you didn't mention which figure you prefer. What're you? Some kinda rebel or something?

bobasaur: "His intent wouldn't even matter - if what he said was perceived (even by someone other than Jesse) as sexual harassment he could be penalized."

Yes, I suppose that's so. But I really haven't come across any of that yet. This irrational bullying or name calling. A total disregard for others. All I've seen so far are threads that're discussing a particular issue and someone somewhere deciding okay, you're not going to talk about that anymore. And in those threads there weren't -- IMHO -- any members getting out of hand or being offensive.

Yes there is a line that shouldn't be crossed. But I haven't seen anyone come anywhere near it (in the threads I've seen locked). Being abusive and insulting and insensitive? Harrassment? Yes, those elements should be dealt with immediately. But deciding, oh, no, you're not having this conversation? That's a different line of thought, bobasaur. But as I said, tho I've been rendering near seven years now, I've spent little real time in the forums. Only over the last month or so. Perhaps mods can see something I can't. Perhaps in Pengy's thread they saw eventually someone would call someone a doody-head and to prevent that chose to still the voices altogether.

So, yes, I understand that free speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. But it doesn't mean I'll tell what you can say either.

kmw

LornaW: "We need a nice toilet place here or else the crap just builds up and builds up and eventually we just lose it all over, and that's not good at all. So why not let us have a toilet for silly sake??! We know there will always be someone that won't flush the toilet after taking their crap, always, always, and someone will always dribble all over, that's inevitable, and that stuff then causes others a real problem, sure. Perhaps only open that toilet when there's a plunger and cleaner handy, at certain time intervals?? There's an idea?" Great. You've killed that other great image I had of you. Just murdered the damned thing into a bloody pulp. thanx kmw