clsteve, as I have said before, I still have to see a hardware or software protection scheme which holds for more than one week of serious attacks. In your previous post you talk about Max 4 and Pixels 3D. If you go to www.tracker-tracker.com (a portal for everything related to Hotline servers) and do a file search for both, you get at least 20 hits each. The same for almost every other 3d software package, both high end like Maya and low end. You can even find Zygote models! I bought Poser 13 months ago in Italy (since I'm italian), through the then distributor for MetaCreations products in Italy. I could never register the program. And I can not register it now. My experience with this "administrative" side of Poser leaves me a bit skeptical regarding my ability to install and succesfully use it. If I will buy the Pro Pack or a new version of Poser with the copy protection scheme on, I probably think I will try to remove it, just to be sure I can protect my investment in the product. What else would you do if you were me? Maci