I thought I read somewhere that South Park uses 3d Studio Max to make their cartoons. I wonder what software if any is used in O'grady. Does anyone know?

would not the bonny be a better choice for making a sunflower?

Why didn't you respond to your last thread about suggestions for your new pc before you actually purchased?

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/08/01/dual/page10.html Actually the 1 mb of cache is negligible in comparision to 512. Increasing the MHz has more of signifigance in decreasing render time than a higher cache. OpenGL performance issues are probably more related to e-ons inferior coding than to 7800GTX inability.

I am comtemplating an Athlon 64 4200 x2, Corsair xms (2x1gb) 184-pin ddr sdram ddr 400 (pc3200) unbuffered dual channel (Twin2048-3200c2, Asus A8N SLI Premium motherboard. This is a decent computer for a fair price. If you have the money an Athlon 64 4800 x2 is better.

For both but why the curiosity? Is it because those who use it for profit expect more and voice it when the program is failing in it's promises?

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Right back inside the box. Software with a dongle has been cracked before. Where do you get your information? I think using a dongle is worst idea of all.

There are those who believe piracy can not be stopped.

In the case of media makers they offer great packaging, posters, coupons, or something else so enticing that most people would want to buy the real version because the pirated version does not have these things.

So maybe software companies can apply the same logic.

If they offer free plugns or a manual that doesn't fall apart maybe people would want to buy it more because they know they will get much more than the pirated version.

These software companies need to think out of the box when fighting piracy instead of coming directly at it. It would be more cost effective.

I disagree. This is not every multi app 3d artist dream at all. Why use high end 3d apps with wanna be 3d apps?

Why not make instances in 3ds of vue trees or even better 3ds trees. I don't think 3ds benefits from vue at all. There are many plugns that do and work with 3ds better than vue.

And my computer is great with plenty of power and ram. It works well with all other programs except for the latest vue infinite.

The analogy of people fighting at dinner is not at all the same as someone posting a thread. The analogy would be better if someone picked up the phone on a conversation and kept listening after they heard something that made them depressed. I can't feel sad for these people for they do it to themselves in more than one way. If you feel depressed from reading these posts don't read them. It is that simple.

I still think the genesis of Cornucopia and the new encryption method which doesn't need serial numbers is proof that Cornucopia is changing the way vue works.

Nonetheless, developers, programmers, and beta testers are the people to blame for the increasing amount of bugs in vue that never get fix.

Get depressed over that and not the messenger that speaks the mind.

And why are your feelings more important than mind. Did you ever think I feel depressed when I think how I spent $1000 on software that doesn't work as advertised.

I have posted my complaints to vue techs until I am blue and nothing comes of it. I have posted my problems in other forums about vue. So for anyone to think that I haven't makes me believe that they are not rational. I have updated and things get worse.

Dale, I don't take stock in anything you write because I find you not to be a good problem solver as are most of the people who work for e-on. Also, Dale, I don't care for your filibuster style of writing and semantics.

One last bug that should have never been and caught by any bright beta tester. Bump maps didn't align with textures. What a step backwards!!! I find vue to be a lot less professional when all the free-working unprofessional people started working for it.

I think this thread has come to an end. I disagree with the mob's rule and do so freely and openly.

There are a lot of points here to think about.

People wouldn't be leaving this forum if e-on did their job and made stable software instead of messing around with Cornucopia.

How many updates, lately, have been to make Cornucopia junk work? And then the update removed when it caused more problems.

So don't blame the messenger. The human messenger who may show feelings of a human nature and post their anger at semi-expensive software now working as advertised.

Agiel, put fault where fault lies with e-on because if they made software that worked better nobody would have complained. I don't find it logical to blame upset posters for people leaving the forum.

I also don't see how you know the end results of any of the negative posts. How could you know what posts have what outcome and who reads them. Maybe the president of e-on read some of my negative posts and is rethinking something right now as I write this. Why be a know it all when there is so much left to know.

Dale, I don't take any stock in anything you write. The pine trees were redone before and this is the third time. The semantics to the bonny clump being new and having upside down leaves is old to me regardless of what anyone at cornucopia says or thinks. And the free content at cornucopia excuse is just that an excuse. Free items don't have to take any time away from from debugging.

To me the history goes like this.

There were some problems with vue and some of them were fixed. Some more problems arose but they were not fixed. Cornucopia came along and even more problems developed. And now I am left waiting.

My main problems are:

Solid Growth trees that have stretched textures. Especially annoying when the trees are used in ecosystems.

Render Cows not working.

Procedural terrains not consistent.

Instant crashes when doing menial tasks like using the text editor.

Poor stability when using Open GL.

Memory leaks, render size & texture size constraints.

I imagine that many of the people who are offended by upset posters are beta testers for vue and are protecting their feelings.

The main fact is many bugs get by e-on's free working beta testers and they are at fault as is e-on.

I think blame should go where it belongs. I find it ironic that this blame gets put back on me by the people I think are responsible for vue's problems.

JMHO

Agiel, you avoided once again my direct questions. I don't appreciate you talking down to me either. I think you are full of yourself and one sided. If you want to keep the blinders on go head. You only prove to me you have no arguement by attacking me and threatening me with a ban. The facts are vue has many problems and I think you are one of them. Should we list the problems? Or will you lock the thread? Or delete this post?

I agree with Lyne's & Vance's recent post save for one point in Lyne's. The few and very unhappy are far more than you realize. Plus this statement is overboard (IMO) it sounds if these unhappy people are just unhappy and don't have valid complaints which to me is unfair and hitting below the belt.

I feel it is much more fair when arguing to talk about the points being discussed and not about the people who make the points. To me this is a cheap shot. If I took your statement wrong than I take back these words.

Otherwise I feel Lyne and Vance are on the mark. JMHO :) Lyne I am happy you are happy but curious if you see or want to see the whole vue picture.