Thank you Tina it is nice to know I have some options.

Which programs did you D/L ?

Thank you for the insight. I just got it and after working with it for a brief time, I bought it. I love the new interface it is more organized. I can't wait to use the direct coloring.See ya I am gonna be busy now.:))))))

Brilliant words!!!! and let me add this from lyrical content by the the band Rush. "Quick to Judge, Quick to Anger, Slow to Understand, Ignorance and Prejudice and they walk Hand in Hand." If only we as human beings could learn a better way. Love Fractals if not for their Beauty for their Adaptability, and for their simple rooted Truth!!!!

I am new and I am learning 3d art and design. However I am an established musician on several websites. This is the same problem that you go through on music sites people either kissing up to the musician or idiots that come and say you suck. Unfortunately this is human nature and there is not much else that can be done because no matter how much somebody really wants to be critiqued, they also want to hear they are doing well. I read almost this whole thread and looked through at least the Lightwave and 3Ds Images and I have left no comment because I don't feel I am qualified to leave any comments because of my "newbie" state of mind. It saddens me to know that when I do post something and am truly looking for help with my work. I am going to have to wait forever to actually get a comment and possibly that will be from an asskisser. I thought it would be different but unfortunately the artist community is the same as the musician community people afraid to post true crit and idiots who have huge egos. :((((((((