Thanks noel, once again you are a big help.

Cheers,
BD

Quote - Someone should start to make a list with all the issues that make users want to leave.
Hey in another 5 years you can tell people that once upon a time there was a website...
Glad to see no cat pic here. :p

Hey, these types of Renderosity PR fiasco's are the only reason I and some others I know even come here anymore...

It is like watching the Titanic hitting the iceberg and sinking.

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Thanks noel, got it.

Cheers,

BluesDragon

Ajax mentioned the matmatic program in another forum too.

Can someone post a link so I can check it out?

Seems like a really great program.

Quote - we are aware of this and some servers use the same IP over and over again. this isn't the only thing we use to determine a clone :O)

OK, but if you start calling me anathandra, we BOTH are gonna take turns whipping you with a wet noodle.

:-)

Quote - My telephon company has much more broadband users than the number of assigned IPs, so the same IP must be shared by a lot of users!
255.255  IPs gives 65536, too few for more than a million users

Yeah, and the delay in the lines between your planet and Earth mush be staggering !

:)

Quote - just checked the username count again - it's up to 473084. apparently a new username is added to the database every 10 minutes, on average. tends to discount the notion that folks are leaving here in droves over the latest snafu :lol:

Please note, I am only commenting on the logic of the above statement, not making comments on whether people should or should not maintain their accounts here.

Your logic actually has a few flaws.

1. The count is the total number of accounts, including accounts that haven't been used for a while and accounts that people have just now decided to stop using. There is no way that WE can tell what that previous and future count of inactive accounts will be.

2. Even if people were "leaving in droves" you can't tell from the total number of accounts because the people that are leaving are not deleting their accounts.

3. This latest "snafu" (as you name it) is more than likely not known to these new people  because they are most likely not reading this thread first before creating their account.

Just thought I would point that out.

Quote - Be a little fair about the freestuff. Its true that rosity doesnt host them , but it does cost them in data storage and bandwidth  to host the index and search feature, and they do host the thumbnail and description text .

Yes, I will give them that... but that is not the way that it was represented earlier in the thread.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the services Renderosity provides... but it is not a one way street. Renderosity gets benefit from those freebie postings and other services in traffic flow to the site. Getting people to the site is very important to sales. If people don't come  to the site, they can't buy anything.

OK, just want to get something straight here, at least the way that I understand it.

It has been stated by staff members here about all the FREE stuff available at Renderosity.

These FREE services (galleries, forums, blogs, etc...) are at LEAST partially designed to draw people to the site and advertise products. WE are doing work for THEM and the vendors. Maybe the staff members at Renderosity need to be reminded of that.

Also, as far as the over 13,000 free items... Renderosity does not host them. Renderosity provides LINKS to free items, not the items themselves and a vast majority of those free items are produced by the community members, NOT RENDEROSITY. We as a community are providing most of the free items that Renderosity is taking the credit for.

I find that extremely insulting and very misrepresentative of the situation. Taking credit for other peoples work, shame on you!

If I am wrong in my understanding of this... please correct me, but provide FACTS.

Thanks for the heads up !

. Glad to be of help :) I must have forgot the reopen the saved HXN file step when I posted. Good catch on that. Cheers, Steve AKA BluesDragon

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