Valandar, That's pretty darn good! They must have a pretty good airspeed to have her blown back as far as she is... say 40-60 knots. Otherwise, she'd hang down more vertically. I love the expression on his face... definately working to drag her into and through the air. He's considerably more muscled than I'd expect a flyer to be, but I've got to tell ya, that's one of the best flying poses I've seen yet. Congrats! - Bill

chuckle Definately NOT an easy challenge to be sure. The Square/Cube ratio is definately a factor, but it is one that can be worked around. One of the greatest misconceptions of aerodynamics is "Bumble bee's can't fly according to science." Scientists know that's not true, but it's something that's gotten into the lay public's mind.

Let's take the case of an "angel" Human sized. I'm going to cheat a little (there will be some of that) and assume a slightly lighter bone structure for the airframe ;) Let's call a full height angel a dead-weight of about 130lbs. Given a static wing loading of 2.5 lbs per square foot, we get a wing area of 52 square feet, or a pair of right-triangles about about 10' along they hypotenuse. This isn't an outrageous wing, or wing-loading. And it neglects the "bumble-bee" principle.

The Bumble-Bee misconception comes from applying Bernouli's equations assuming that at any given instant, a wing in motion can be assumed to behave as a static wing in a constant airflow, then the results of the motion integrated. The real world doesn't work like that. (fortunately) It's NOT just the scale-effect at work here. The motion of the wing can create a complex of low pressure vortices. Who is to say that the lower wings of a faerie don't ride the turbulence created by the upper wings? Dragonflies do it to extremely great effect.

I concur that the shoulder structure would definately change, and internal shifting of organs would be needed, but those are structural details, not aerodynamic impossibilities. Someone brought up the topic of balance and stability... ie, shouldn't a flyer's wings be around his/her hips? With a neutral pitch-moment wing, that's correct, but many birds, and some aircraft have strong forward pitch-moment airfoils. In the case of faerie, if the lower wings are catching a turbulent airflow and using it, they may even be creating more lift than the larger forewings, which would tend to torque the body nose... er... head down, balancing the weight of the legs.

Now, I realize that this is all fantasy, and that it doesn't HAVE to work out to be pretty art. I find it's much more fun to work it out, if one can.

• Bill

Geez... Read it through. I never promised ANY cash, I did promise options. It IS Mid December, as noted by my reference above. Your post in reply to my initiation of this thread is what prompted me to send you cash, and terminate the option paperwork. You said... "I'm still waiting for "stocks" of a phantom company." I took this to mean that you did not want the options we'd previously negotiated. I wired you compensation for a days work. Benigo, the more your posting on this, the more foolish you're looking... Please, let it go. - Bill

Geez... I give up. I'm trying to be polite and make sure that everything is reasonable and above board. I realize that you may believe that your use of english is clear, but your choice of words is confusing. Your phrase, "you are liberated you for further payments or charges" isn't clear, given the eariler message that said you felt I owed you further payments. If you think I'm out of line for seeking clairification, the least you could do is be mature about it. I won't reply to this thread any further... Send me eMail if my understanding below is NOT correct. 1. You have the rights to your renderings, I am not allowed to use them in any way. 2. You will keep the payment I've already sent. 3. I owe you nothing more. That's my best interpetation of what you've said, and it is acceptable to me. Some folks feel they should be compensated for work, others feel that they should be compensated for their results. I prefer to work with the latter group. Goodnight. Bill

Um, I'm not sure I understand Benigno. You revoked the license to use animations that weren't usable in the first place, so you're reversing your position that I owe you money? That's just fine with me, but a bit confusingly worded. Keep the funds already paid as compensation for your good faith effort. Just making sure I understand correctly. If I don't use the animations, we're square? - Bill

Yes Bennigo, you're wrong. You promised me quality work. After receiving your proofs, I told you to stop work. I never received any final work (if you recall, I requested the finals at HDTV resolution) I don't want any final work from you, your quality isn't professional. By your own account, you spent 8 hours on this project, plus 9 hours of rendering time. I've wired you $100 for a days work. Go away. Bill