Thank you, Jeff, they worked OK! Yea, I see that about P4. But going from P1 to P3 is a major step for me. Now I need to find a copy of Bryce3 to match it. Bryce2 is just terrible at go down when tweaking materials, and import-facilities are poor. But anyway, thanks a lot! Jgen

Hoops, thats a dead link, to earlier patches, what now? I have posted a qery to CuroiusLabs customer service, to see what they might say... Jgen

Thank you very much, I knew about CuriousLabs, but could not find any link to previous patches, only P4 Jgen

Thanks everybody! Ill have a look at this. I am currently under a no-budget(well,almost..)limit, but a PC World is OK. And all free sources are very wellcome! I am very sorry that I missed the issue of 3D World with Bryce 3. Jgen