Although my pose avi's work fine when viewed through windows media player, I am having trouble getting them to load into other some other programs. When i looked at the avi's properties, it says they are an 'unknown format'. i have tried doing them with other codecs and i do not have this problem with other avi generating programs (bryce, illusion, amapi etc.) It appears to be a poser thing (it happens on poser 3 and 4) Can anyone help me please!!??? glen.wilson@lineone.net