I showed a few renders I made of Victoria 3 to Dan Farr during beta testing (ongoing), and he mentioned me posting a few of them here. I'll be posting one at a time, so if you only see one, just wait :) I'll have four or five total for now. Let me say first that V3 is quite the 3d model. The way the morphs are set up, it makes it adaptable to many different poses. Body shapes are only limited by your imagination. I've been having a blast, and I can't wait for the final version. For these images, they are only quick renders, testing a few poses and morphs. PLEASE disregard any mistakes I may have made (and did) in positioning the hair. There were also a couple small errors on my part in setting the bump map in a couple areas. But you'll get the idea. For this first one, I tried a few new morphs, like stomach in, inhale, adding a few abs, as well as deltoids and triceps in the arms. Also notice the morph for the muscle in the armpit (can't remember the name)... it's cool. Anyway, I'll try to leave a couple comments next to each image, kinda letting you know what I was trying. Will

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Please disregard the bad hair positioning :) Here I tried something more pinup-like, pulling the waist in, while keeping the curve of her hips and stomach. Definitely something that was hard to get right in V2. With this render, there would be a few other things I might try, but with each render I'm just trying a few things at a time, not a finished product. Those of you who have seen my work know I never post straight renders. But I am here. No post work at all. More to come....

Here is a pose that is close to one that will come with the figure. I changed it a bit just to see how the arms would work. I really haven't changed her face much at all... just a slight change in her mouth and eyes (and brows). V3 seems to take radical or stretched poses much better than V2. More to come.....

Here is another view of the previous image I posted. I tried to see if I could get a little gravity going in her glute. Using a bit of positive flex in one cheek, and negative in the other, I really like the way it helped define the hip bone. Also, I accentuated the muscle running down her side (lats). Also notice on her left hand, the muscle under her wrist. That's new on V3, and nice for some more tension in the pose, not to mention the muscles running down her right arm. More to come...

(disregard the bad positioned hair)-- Here's another pose, just showing one arm up, the other by her side. Going for a more natural chest as well (although I will admit, well endowed:)) I'm using a mat file here that adds a darker skin tone, as well as a sheen to the skin. There are mat files for bump as well, so you can choose your level of bump. I believe there are 5 levels of skin tone, makeup and natural maps (natural here), and a sheen and wet look. I really like the new collarbones... better definition, and the breast morphs a much better for a natural lay-down look, or not, if that's what you're looking for. I credit Daz for looking at just about every option the testers have put before them. One more to come....

Cool, thanks for sharing voodoo! Love the muscle tension effects you pointed out - THAT will come in handy for animated battle scenes! (sighs - Dan, you guys are killing my production budget...) (grin)

any way to make that side pouch thing on her butt go away? that has always bothered me in the mil figures.... ( not like it really matters cause i will buy anyhew but...)

Did they remodel the buttocks/inner thigh to be more anatomically correct?

The legs on most poser figures are modeled too close together, there should be a gap.

I want I want I want - how much longer are you gonna torture us Dan? She looks absolutely brilliant!

hurry up :) Her face looks very much like V2...I was hoping for a totally different look...does she morph better? The rest so far is fabulous....is there a way to name the muscle dials something that makes sense?...I don't like having to have an anatomy book next to the monitor. How about showing some elbow and knee bends...arms folded across chest....

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You're right... the next one is not straight render. Just for fun, I stuck the render in Photoshop, added a bit of grain, and overlaid a levels adjustment to get this look. No hair on her head in this one, but kinda liked the way it turned out. Spent about five minutes in Photoshop. Again, here, there is a skin sheen mat file added. No morphs to the face, other than eyes moved, and lips slightly parted. Bunch of morphs used to get her chest to look like that. One thing I think all should know is that V3 may not be much to look at when you open the default figure. But it's not meant to be used that way. You can create almost any look you want by using the full body morphs... a few people may never click on a body part except to move it. Body morphs are more both more numerous and better defined than in V2. Also, each morph has used more control points for the movement, so the movement is both more subtle, and more powerful. The body zones blend much better. Thanks for taking a look. I'll post again when I get away from checking out V3. Daz has done some neat things here; I've been impressed in their desire to create not only a more realistic figure, but one that's also adaptable to many body types. No, they didn't pay me to say that. Really. All I can tell you is that once the final v3 comes out, v2 will watch from the bleachers.

The blonde, post 6 looks like someone....hmmmmm obviously more facial morphing possible than before?

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how poly intense is it? and will we stil have the same cross talk issues we have now?

Cheryle, yes, you can change the "pouches" as you call them. JeffH- Yes, the thighs and butt you mention are there... I just prefer a bit more on my figures. If there's any error in the renders, it's my fault, not the figure's.

there's no crosstalk in p5...is there?

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
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LOL change them? i want to get rid of them ;) some of us are built like this / not this }{ LOL ;) just a pet peeve of mine ;P

Dave, I've tested the figure in both P4 and P5 and it seems to work equally well in either program.

Dave-some of us have had no need to upgrade to p5 and have not done so and won't. If p4 does what i need (and it does - with no pro pac)then it's all good.

Well...I'm not buying a couple of xmas gifts in anticipation of buying V3.... Have you tried the prior Vic clothing? Doe it fit?

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Hey Cheryle....I understand about not buying p5.... Is crosstalk from the figures themselves or from the way P4 interacts with them ? Otherwise, the null figure technique works well to rid the crosstalk in P4

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How much hard drive space does she need?

Is anybody trying V3 with bvh for us animators?

Wowzers! When asked by family what I'd like for Christmas I said cash so I can go shopping at DAZ. :o) I've never asked for cash in my life! Ha! Ha! But I'm hooked and Vic3 is first on my "to buy" list. Thanks so much for sharing these images with us, I'm very pleased with how she looks, great to have a sneak peek. I see many of those little problem areas are gone, like arm pit to shoulder blending, and the knee area when bent, and I just love the skin texture and muscle tone. I think she has a nicer face than Vic2. Hope she'll be on my hard drive before Christmas!!! Yeah!

FlyByNight

Dave - i have no idea where it (the cross talk) comes from- only sometimes i get it sometimes not. shrug never really paid too much attention to it except when it shows up unexpectedly ;P

The discoloring and speckling on her thighs.. is that a bump map error ?

i think they posted these and all went out ;P ...must stay tuned to tomorrows show... same bat time... same bat channel.. and yah i see seams! they're everywhere! ;P i think i need to get out more ;P

Shoulders and collar bones in 6 & 8 don't impress me too much. As long as she can come out and play...

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^_^

is v3 anatomically correct...as in genital areas? or do we need to be censured ? Also...will v2 textures work? and all the clothing we previously went broke to have? These Poser characters have more clothes than I have had my entire life.... I'm still wearing the same shoes I bought back in 1979...that duct tape is wonderful

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Wow!

Guess I have to hold off on all those textures I was gunna buy for Vicki2 now. Man I hope Vicki3 doesn't cost an arm and a Mike Leg :P

How about something not called Vicki. This is a bit old. Would like something new here. Different body shape. She looks to much like my first wife. Ron

"Anatomically correct" LOL... You don't think DAZ is going to give away all their secrets do you? I am not a physician so I can honestly say I am not too familiar with anatomy. (I just know what I think looks good.) The thing that strikes me as the most appealing about V3 is her face and how more natural she looks. I am just completely excited about the prospect of her release. If she looks this good then M3 and S2 are going to blow us away!

i just hope it will run on my computer ;P i don't want to have to buy a new computer just to run them....

Actually, Vicki seems a reasonable name for someone who keeps getting reworked. First you have V1. Then V2. Then V3. Which pretty conclusively demonstrates that despite all appearances, Vicki is still a version. Like a version, Touched for the very first time. Like a version, When your heart beats; next to mine.

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LOL Bobasaur! whatever you are drinking- here's 2 more LOL!

Ron, call her whatever you think is prettiest. :) Lady Jaiven, That is a material zone bordering the Stockings material. Might have rendered it and forgot to match the highlights there. That's all. Don't worry there are tons of faces.

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Holy cow. Is she going to work in P4?

Actually, I'm eating M&Ms. However, I was starting to get a little parched... [gratefully he reaches over and slugs both down.] Hmmm, I wonder if she has a "cone" morph setting ;-)

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whoa

If she doesn't come complete with genitals... I'm NOT buying. DAZ knows how many hundreds of dollars I've spent there the last couple of years... and I'd gladly spend more, but NOT for a slap in the face. I don't do pornography. I'm just fed up with discrimination. What we females have naturally at birth is not offensive, and if DAZ makes a male model with full anatomy, they can damned well make a female model with full anatomy. Carolly

Hi again. Her is an aternate face render using our Global Lighting set "Pink Snowcone". The face is 40% French Morph and 50% Polynesian Morph 10% Celtic Morph. You'll see soon. We'll have tons of pop-ups. Anton

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what hair is that? and can this model accept male skins? that would make a good male ( no offence but it would )

OMG.. okay I WANT HER NOW! She is so beautiful!

That is a lovely face Anton. =)

Carolly, she does have some pubic detail morphs. Were not doing a birth canal. Put down the sword before you hurt someone. :) Please relax we hear you. Look at it this way, Michael's penis opening is closed too.

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I'm looking forward to v3, but I would like to see what the elbow and knee joints look like. Not one render shows them, even the 2nd render has the joint facing the wrong way to see it. Tashar 59

..."Look at it this way, Michael's penis opening is closed too."... that's gotta hurt ;P

The hair is new. I rendered in P4. Poser version number makes no difference. We're working on a male texture. There are some male face and body morphs. Cheryle, I was just being playful. beryld, we'll show all that shortly in the ad images.

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Nice work Anton. Thanks.

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Daz has been so great with their Mil figures, actually having setting where one can get rid of the Supermodel look and achive a weighted appearance that CL seems to completely IGNORE!!! Can I be greedy (and probably the oddball) and ask for any quick renders of the body moprhs...specifically the weight adjusting ones?? If the morphs have been improved as you describe Voodoo Id love to see them Thankee.

Anton- i know- i am just goofing off here while waiting for work. But- on a more serious note- could you please show us some renders with the elbows and knees bent? also i have this pet peeve about the mill people's butts ;P they all have that office (secratary) spread to them. Could you please show us some renders with the posterior smaller? more like the traditional v shape and not the hourglass shape?

Whoa Nellie! I see late bills and reposession in my future (but LOTS and LOTS of Poser stuff)...LOL! ;o) Laurie

"Look at it this way, Michael's penis opening is closed too." Aha! I was wondering why Victoria hadn't yet.... Well, that explains it. pg (no pun intended... it's my initials.)

You can make fat women, thin women, muscular women, saggy women, young, old, It is all changeable. I have to finish these mae-up maps so we can get her out to you. Just hang in there. When she is out we'll show you everything.

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Before I turn my head off; Can we assume that there is an upgrade from V2 to V3? Q

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V2 morphs= No New Geometry= Yeah that's the point Upgrade discount= Don't have that info Stripped = She comes stripped. The morphs are injected or removed using pose files. I think we're going to provide a UV file for UVmapper if you want to use the old mapping. The new mapping is so much nicer. Daz Arcana will have instructions and extensive overviews of her.

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"The morphs are injected or removed using pose files." Hmm... I know about injection morphs, but you can "remove" morphs with pose files??? I'm intrigued... A UV file would be a nice touch too. :)

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Yeah you just double click to install a morph or remove it from the cr2. We'll explain it all at release.

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Amazing!

Anton, Sword? Oh, you've seen that picture! (maybe I should post it again) :wide grin: It is simply amazing how 3 feet of naked steel manages to get a point across. Most of us don't need to see up the innards of any canals (ears, vaginas, noses); we don't normally even need to see uvulas. However our external geometry is just as important as what you guys have. So (slightly mollified) what kind of pubic morphs? Carolly

I want one, I want one, I want one! Please, put us out of our misery! At least give us a date, a price and some sleep!!!

Oh! When I said I want one just then, I did mean a Victoria 3 not a pubic morph! Just thought I better make that clear!

She has the most wonderful face, looks really good and different from previous Vickis. Congrats Daz.

As my fried Judy Ozborne always says "A sword in the hand is worth two in a bush". Judy always got her sayings wrong. No idea what it means either but it seems to apply here. Anton

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Anton I can't get over that face, it is just terrific! The body is amazing! I'm holding up a cover assignment so I can use V3 in it. I know, I know, before christmas (today would be nice).

there are some visible seams on her right hip and legs, as ladyjaiven showed in #27. is this a map thingy? can she wear vicky's clothes?

well you did say " as my fried Judy..." that might explain it?

ooops, ignore the first one, i just read your answer in #39... :P

Anton,

The natural breast morphs and armpits look greatly improved. But, I'm still a little concerned about these areas because they look a lot like Steph's problem with poly size mismatch where her hip meets her abdomen in front below the belly button.

Like LadyJaiven, I'm wondering about the areas I've circled. Are you saying those lines on her thighs are material zones for stockings and not a new grouping of upper-lower thigh polys? And what about the side of her hip, where it meets the abdomen? Granted, that line inside her breast may just be a severe morph and high specular where the l_collar and chest meet on V2.

Would it be possible to post a render of her set to all white with no textures in DAZ's Complex Global Lighting #1? If those lines are still there in that circumstance, then the lines are a result of poly size mismatch.

Her ribs and hips look fantastic, btw. Sorry if I sound negative. I just thought you guys might want to work those areas a bit more if there is a problem.

One more thing: If you're working on make-up, does that mean she comes with textures, or are you working on a complimentary kit? More importantly, does she come with a sword? :-)

"For these images, they are only quick renders, testing a few poses and morphs." Lets not tear these renders apart, and ask a million questions, remember the obove statement, these renders are just some prelimary beta stuff that they were nice enough to show. Soon all will be revealed...

what was this rendered in? Sharen

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Sharen, I rendered in P4. Not sure about Will. Migal. As I said above. There is a new material zone there. There are no poly mismatch issues. That area is one of the new material zones. The settings look off for the bump or highlight. That is all. Don't worry. The breast circle is just a catch of light on the mesh. :) There is a makeup map included in the map pack. A seperate pack of will be available for only those that are looking for makeup. Okay back to work. They get really cranky here when we post so it is better we just show you more when she is released. Catch ya later, Anton PS:Again Don't worry. She has made it past 9 beta's.

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i think carolly rendered in p5, with all this nice hair and fur... ;]P

Roger, Anton. Thanks. Nine betas? Sheesh! When you could have just had one big public one after release? running and ducking

She really does look good! I like how she handles that stretched out pose. The morph injection sounds very intresting too! Can't wait!

Well, she sure looks wonderful, what textures are you using, will she have her own or can we use our other textures on her for Vicky? Sharen

What an excellent idea with the morph injection! Smaller file sizes, and morphs can't crosstalk if they aren't there!

Have you (DAZ) thought about a Morphos mapping file for V3?

I can't believe I read this entire thread...oh yeah, I want her too

wow she is lovely from all accounts, I particularly like how the shoulder and collar area looked in the stretched out poses, and the muscles tension is wicked.

Glad to see that her face is still so plain jane! It makes us face sculptors work all the more challenging (i.e. valuable) Damn nice bod you guys. Great work!

V2 has a "pubic detail morph," which is basically Barbie-crotch with a slot--nothing resembling an actual human vagina. Wait and see, I guess.

Hi guys ! Wow ! What a thread, it's coming Hot here ! I would be interested to get some face expressions too ! Could we have some here ?? Thanks a LOT ! Nice work men ! =) A'kin

Wow. I was wondering how long before they moved this thread. Sign of the times, I guess, when a V3 release thread gets moved out of the Poser Forum. Wasn't even one of our threads. Oh well. I guess answering all these questions drew too much attention. Catch you guys after release. I wonder where they will move the V3 questions to? Anton Daz3d.com

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I thought I was in the wrong place, Anton. Looking forward to the release and Merry Christmas to you and DAZ!

FlyByNight

Well, with the little material zone sniggle aside, I think she looks incredible! The armpit looks so much more realistic, as does her ribcage. Anton, is that the hair you posted some pics of awhile back? It looks fantastic too!

Carolly, I remembered very well our conversation at GDC last year when you specifically asked us for better detail in the genital area. With that conversation in mind (as well as requests from others), we did add a few morphs for surface genitals for Victoria. I don't promise that the genitals will be satisfactory to everyone but as with all of our products we offer a 30 day satifaction guarantee. We are still working on the pricing of Victoria 3. We are hoping to offer an upgrade price for people who own a prior Victoria product. Since we are using the morph injection/removal techniques we are breaking down the product into a few different products. This way we can offer a lower base priced product and people can customize the figure as they would like in the time frame that they want. The base product will contain two separate .obj's. One that is grouped out for the new blend zones and with new UV. The other can utilize the previous Victoria Clothing and texture maps. We have tried to retain as much backwards compatibility as possible but we did not want that to restrict the forward movement with the product. We don't expect Victoria 3 to be everything to everyone but overall we feel (and our beta testers seem to agree) that Victoria 3 really pushes the limits of the environment she is designed for. As I mentioned in an earlier post we are planning to release Victoria 3 prior to Christmas. But if we are really lucky we may have her for sell later this week. Sincerely, Dan Farr

danfarr: "[...]Victoria 3 really pushes the limits of the environment she is designed for." lol, oh please, don't. that "environment" is already unstable within it's own limits. ;]

For Shock ing reasons I'm with Carolly on the pubic morph issue. But, I really want to know how Vicky 3 animates. Millenium figures have some IK limitations. I often use a third IK from the hip through to the head, this works fabulously with Eve (and by default I would imagine with Posette) but not with later Daz figures.

Okay Dan ! I will look forward the morph injection (Good idea :) ! Do you wish any photos to give to the modeler for the genitals ??? ;P HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! Well ! I definitively think it will be a perfect Santa gift ! (If my wife does agree of course ! =) Cheers, A'kin

Actually, while there's a chance of catching Dan's ear/eye. The animals, what's with having the IK all the way down to the toes, that's plain silly. Oh and just try changing them in the hierarchy editor...

I'm really anxious to see how you guys did the stripped Cr2s and morph files. That could solve a lot of distribution issues. I'm not too worried about her groin. If she has more mesh we can put new morphs there ourselves, if we want.

Her wrist and armpit tendons look remarkable.

"But if we are really lucky we may have her for sell later this week" Dont release it unless you are absolutely convinced that it is ready to go. I would rather wait then have a product shipped out the door before it's ready oh will old poses still work with it?

Hey Migal ! Buy Cr2Edit and you will see what is MOR injection, or look at Les Bentley files ! tss.... friendly, Akin

So, the base figure will be available at one price, then we pay for add-on morph packages? Hmmmm. Does that mean the base figure comes as is, without any morphs?

oh! oh! I have a question: since Vic 3's menu is on the platinum club's page, does that mean she'll be a platinum club item? Just had to ask! 8p ~DM

She's really beautiful! Very natural-looking. Wonderful. :-) -dg

You beat me to it CrystalDragon, but my thought is that some of the add on packs will be PClub items. And mabye some clothing too. What's the answer guys?

Hi there, Here is another shot showing some of her new clothing material zones to be used with Spandex, STockings, Gloves etc. Also shows the new conforming hair. It is the hair I showed months ago but has been reworked as a fully conforming figure in the tradition of the old Conforming Curls. Long her figures can be made for her where they Couldn't on Vicki 1 & 2. The hair hair stays on the body and moves with the neck, shoulders, and head. Question: No she isn't in Platinum Club but Platinum CLub Members get to weild their helfty bonus discount. Old poses are partially compatible but they won't make full use of her improvements. You sould make new poses to really make the most of her. It is like using Possette poses on Vicki 2.

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Just a curious question that popped into my head: Can she wiggle her toes?

hmmmph... She's still not on sale. Grumble... Checking daily. Of course, I'd love to see the hinted "Male Morphs". And I'm waiting for Mike 3. As always, I'll buy her the first day. Along with the new clothing pack and first textures. Sigh... It's gonna be a cold Christmas for the kids. No - wait. I don't have kids! Yippee!

PS: Just to be clear she isn't wearing clothing. Just a few material colors and a eweave map to those material zones. Pdxjims, Though her toes are not parts like the fingers, there are a bunch of wiggle, aticulation, shaping, and movement morphs for the toes. So yes they wiggle. :) Anton

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Why do I get the feeling I'm being ignored?

Please do not wait to release her late on 12/24 and then not have anybody around when the store gets overloaded and crashes. What can I say? I'm a pessimist :)

Have to say she looks pretty damn good...complete, anatomically correct genitals, or not....plus, none of us do naked women anyway.

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Speak for yourself Dave >^_~

Mosca, Noone is trying to ignore you. This isn't a full Press release. :) Just started as a few renders. We're crazy busy tring to finish her. It depends. If the curvature and crease of a vagina is what you mean then you will be happy. If you are wanting an opening that you can see inside then no. Anything more than the shape of a vagina takes her into the sex doll area. If he have a vagina, people will then want more detail in there and morphs to open it and close it. Next thing you know they want maps and props and are making it Mimic compatible. We all know a huge part of the Poser community is making adult content. We have gone the way of abnormally large breasts but a morphing vagina is not how we want to market her. There is enough geometry to morph an opening but we are not going to be the ones to do it. :) She is unwrapped well enough to texture it as well in that area. Hope this clears it up. I said way more than I should but just to put it plainly it can be done but someone else will have to make the morphs. :) As far as the packs go we are still sorting the content. no info to give you. Hope this helps. Lol. I love you guys but your relentless. LOL Off to sleep soon. LOTR tomorrow, Anton

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"Next thing you know they want maps and props and are making it Mimic compatible." ROTFL! After having read this, I definitely know that I do NOT have a perverse mind... if someone else can think of such a deviation, that I would have never imagined! LOL! ;-) (just kidding!) :-)

Okay I just gave her a full exam. Yes she has, with morphs, a Vaginia. Lips and little folds. Like the ears there is no cavity. More of a Vaginal Crease. Happy? :P I am so embarrassed.........not really. So much for discretion and dignity. I have never used the word vagina so many times in one paragraph. :) PS: Don't dare ask for pictures... LOL

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ROTFL the things some companies do to please customers hahahahahaha!

Thanks, Anton, but to be honest a crease doesn't sound all that promising--women don't have creases, they have vaginas. I'm not asking for open/close morphs (no plans to perform a V3 pelvic exam), just the same degree of anatomical detail present in Mike--the external stuff; clitoris, labia majora and minora. I really don't understand the reluctance, especially given Mike 2's highly detailed equipment, complete with various sizing morphs. The morph/pack issue is problematic, too--I'm not going to be a happy camper if I have to buy 37 aftermarket morph packs to get the complete V3 package.

Woops--looks like we cross-posted. Ok, cool, thanks--just tell me the morph-pack thing isn't going to suck.

Mosca, think happy thoughts. You'll like it. Don't panic in advance.

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Mosca,

I don't want you to develope a complex or anything:) We are currently working out the pricing structure so I have not wanted to reply until we have it locked down. But in the meantime, here is a brief answer to your question without the pricing. The base figure will have morphs to improve posing as well as the spandex morph and the facial expressions and phonemes. We will also have a body morph add-on set and a facial morph add-on set to get all of the versatility that you would expect. I can say that the pricing in our oppinion is very agressive and will provide a good opportunity for customers of varying budgets to buy in at a level that they are comfortable with.

Dan Farr

Im glad to hear that. Since i gotta butter up the hubby to get it for me. :) if she isnt to drasticly priced I think I can swing it. Plus I got the platinum club as well. :) I really excited about the new morphs and the way they are gonna be done. she looks great! Big thank U in adavance to you all. :)

dam typos...Im excited not I. :(

"I don't want you to develope a complex or anything:)" A new one, you mean. Thanks for the quick response, Dan. Looking forward to V3, and Studio (especially since I tossed my Poser disk a couple of months ago).

I fear I may have created my own quirky reputation here at Renderosity. Several members probably expect me to ask the following question. Let me not disappoint them. Will one of the morph add-on packages allow me to "mutate" her into an anthropomorphic character, say a felinoid? Actually the existing ones for Victoria 2 work decently enough, especially with the right textures (ie, the "Fantasy Feline" pack), except for the ears. Will you release a pack that will create a more animalistic or feral appearance with truer cat-like ears? Hey, if the others can ask about, ahem, feminine anatomy, surely I shouldn't be chastised for asking this. ;-) Sincerely, Bill

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Bill, We do have a cat face and ears with V3 but I can't promise whether or not it will meet your expectations. Dan Farr P.S. When Anton gets a chance maybe he can post an image for you.

Oh my, have I become so predictably annoying? ;-) Immediately afterwards, this thread will be barraged with a hundred new entries replying, "YES!" Hey, just trying to keep it lighthearted. Sincerely, Bill P.S. Thanks for the direct reply, Mr. Farr. Seriously, I do feel honored.

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Any way to see a picture of the male body morphs? (I just need to see if I'm going to buy Vicki the first day or if I'm going to sprain my wrist from whipping out the credit card in a crazed frenzy 2 seconds after I see the release.) ;-)

Thanks for the hair info Anton. It looks great!

Well, I don't do naked women, so that mimic compatible vagina really doesn't interest me all that much... is there anyone here that does naked women ????

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
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Dan, I think the way you're doing the morphs separately is great. This allows consumers not to have to pay for some of the morphs they don't want, and it also allows us to avoid unwanted morphs eating RAM. I mean, we've all got our own thing, and I'm probably gonna take a pass on the "hideously obese" Vicki pack, if it is available. I'm still stoked about that wrist tendon. :-) And Anton, your recent image makes the new mat zones quite clear (and logical). I definitely jumped the panic gun on that one. Thanks again. And btw, I had no idea you were such a cool and funny dude. Much props to you. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta line for a hobbit thing.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta line for a hobbit thing. what be that???

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

lord of the rings:two towers? yeah we are getting our butts in the line as well. :)

...the Mac user hopes the Morph Injection thing will work on his beloved Mac, too. "Hmmm. I've heard they're injecting silicone through the armpits now - I just never expected it through a pose file. But wait - what if this only works with P5 pose files!!"

Before they made me they broke the mold!
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AH...thought so :) LOR... I get a free showing...but not opening day...

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
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Is this getting too exciting or what. Tell you what, if you put Victoria 3 in the Platinum Club you will have EVERYONE joining within days - even the Mousie couldn't have that pulling power! Seriously, she looks lovely and I so want her now. Please get her up soon, don'e leave it too near Christmas or we will all neglect our families and that would be you fault and very Grinch like of you, wouldn't it ;)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! Right Point of view elgyfu ! =) Dan ? You would not do that I hope.... You won't dare to be a major reason of Christmas Family internal Disaster.... ???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! Anyway, it would also certainly be the better Christmas of all lone poser users ! 8) Any un-official countdown ?? ;) A'kin

"As I mentioned in an earlier post we are planning to release Victoria 3 prior to Christmas. But if we are really lucky we may have her for sell later this week" Well today is Wednesday, tommorrow is Thursday, the next day Friday the 18th, that's 3 more days for this week. Christmas is next Wednesday...I predict sometime in the next 7 days V3 will be released.

Err...Make that Friday the 20th. :oP

DAZ Is there a special time of day you post new items? If you can't tell the day, (for what ever reason), can you tell the time? It seems to me the time is something you can control. Whatever day you get the go ahead to post, you just post it at a specific time, It would save me a lot of checking.

Hi there. Here is a pic with the feline face and ears on. I didn't turn any body dials. As you can see we fixed the twist dials on Vicki's arms and legs so her limbs don't deform like a corkscrew when they twist. We release when ever we are able to. Midwest 9-6 usually Mon - Fri. Injection works on Mac, Poser 5, ProPack, etc. Injection at this resolution takes several minutes but it so work it. I particularly like being able to remove morphs with them. I don't use phoenemes so I never installed them. I am reluctant to show the male morph yet because we don't have a male texture done. He might look silly. I'll try. Anton

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I've been waiting for a bent arm/leg image :) sorry to say this with all the excitement building..I will buy her anyway...but don't the elbow creases stll look caved in or something...kinda squashed at the seam..I'm sitting here looking at my arm...it doesn't do that...plus the elbow on the left side looks pretty darn pointy...can that point be tweaked down a bit? Suppose it could be rounded a bit in post, but... The knewws appear much better, at least from this angle..the rest is fabulous

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

I totally stick to Dave-So point of view..... =) Any pic of elbow creases Anton ? Surely you did not miss that point ! We all know that ! ;) Cheers, A'kin

Yes Dave it can be tweaked. There are morphs. I like the way the arm creases. It is a pretty crease though. Mine does do that. :) If you don't like the elbow you can morph it. Don't worry about sounding negative. She is a good as we could build her using Poser's system. We have reached this software's limits. Sorry if that is a bummer in some way. Sounds like you are also ready for something without posing limitations. :) Anton

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I'd still like to know whether she'll accept new IK's better than previous versions. There are at least two alternative IK's and one additional that are practically essential and at the moment none of the millenium figures can do this as well as Eve...

Saxon, I remember the older Eve 3.0 when I was using Posette. Eve was much better and I am sure is still a great piece of work. It is always good to have alternatives. We will always look to learn and grow. Always feel free to drop email. Anton

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I do wish there was some way to make POser figures bend their legs (like this sitting position) without having it look as if the legs are just stuck onto the hip. I've always hated that crease. That elbow bend is lovely though. Much more natural, and no crunchies

Momcat, I'm sure you know taht there are shaping morphs so let me anwer this a different way. We created a huge array of complete ethic faces to be used as bases as well. The Ethnic faces were made uniquely by hand oppose to using the existing shaping morphs. This way more varieties of faces are possible. The faces, like this one, can be created by simply blending the enthnic morphs. Or you can launch into your own from that starting point.

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"Don't worry about sounding negative. She is a good as we could build her using Poser's system. We have reached this software's limits. Sorry if that is a bummer in some way. Sounds like you are also ready for something without posing limitations. :)" Is that "something" DAZ STUDIO? or do you have another surprise in the works? ;o)

The statements "We have reached this software's limits..." and "Sounds like you are also ready for something without posing limitations.", are very interesting statements, Particulary coming from DAZ. I hope DAZ has something in mind, because DAZ in in a position to do "something" about the "posing limitations". I'm "ready for something without posing limitations". Bring it on DAZ, you're the company that can do it.

That is a nice eye shape. It's not so easy to get a narrow, or deep crease on the existing figures without having the eyeball clip through. Are the ethnic morphs going to be packaged seperately, and will they be sets of seperated morphs, or full face morphs to blend? What I mean is; will I be able to mix a french nose, with slavic cheekbones, nordic eyes, and a thai mouth; or would I be working with whole face shapes to try to achieve the effect I want? It sounds like you folks at DAZ have really been working hard to give us as versatile a figure as possible. I like the idea of breaking the morph packages up into themes (if that's how you're doing it). It will save a lot of space and be much less confusing if you only have to have the parameters you need installed for a given character. How will this affect distribution of new characters? I imagine it will make things even easier.

V3 looks like a terrific product, she can be used in commerical products like, book covers, cards, etc, correct? I hope with all the morphs/plugins/add ons etc, it is not a problem.

Had Judy looked anything near as lovely as this model, I would have purchased Poser 5. Now I'm waiting for Daz Studio because I already like what I've seen of it so far, and, Victoria 3 of course. I love my Vic2 but you have made so many improvements, those awful brows are gone, the eyes, lids, lashes and shadows cast within the eye itself look so much better, good reflections too, the nostril glow is gone, eyebrows look real, neckline is excellent, she's just lovely. Thanks again for sharing all these renders with us, I think this is the longest thread I've ever read. :o)

FlyByNight

Argh! Put us out of our misery, will you. I have spent so long drooling over these pictures that my husband thinks I have fallen for another woman! Actually, he has 'admired' her too! I want a Vicky3, please please Santa, I have been so good!

what I see is a great figure with lot of possibilities, but what do we get with the "Standard Victoria 3", what will be sold seperately? We will see :) I'm very curious too to see more of Vicky 3 but give DAZ their time to make a good working product. I have no problem with it to wait a little bit longer. OK OK ... I can't wait for her too ;) Chris

"It Is Useless To Resist!" - Darth Vader

Okay Anton ! Stop Playing with us, this year I have been a good boy ! I've helped many people to get out of the mess of Poser, and I've tried to explain without losing my nerves how easy was ERC settings ! =) Now Santa ! Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase ! Did I succeed in getting my reward ???? 8) A'kin

For those wondering about Male morphs...this is not a figure to meet all needs and replace Michael...but you do get some great alternatives and ways to make some of the "pretty boy" faces I wish I could have achieved with Michael.

Except for the hair and manipulating the coloration in Photoshop, there is no postwork to this render. The base faces are a great starting point that, as Anton points out, blending various faces in small increments...adding individual morphs that change structure (nose, brows, chin, etc.)...there's no end of what you can do.

This is a face I made with the V3 morphs...a darkish skin tone...looks a little ethnic...a bit dreamy with the deep lids...just what I wanted.....................for now...heh.

(posted with permission from DAZ)
Cris

I want her now!!! throwing tantrum ahem Carry on now :D

Oh, that's just not right. :-

So, is there an Adam's Apple morph? I didn't notice one in the above render.

Momcat, The ethnic morphs are complete faces unto themselves. Some are young..some are old..some are pretty girl..some are more common looking. Chinese for example is older and Japanese is a teenager. They are more subtle than the V2 faces and blend well with any other morph. So the answer is you have both types to work with. There's the standard assortment of shaping morphs. Now that morph injection is possible, we can always release additional morph injection pack over time to fill the gaps. I don't know how they are being packaged. Sorry.

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looking very good..that last image, Anton, is one of the best Poser women I have ever seen... Not too sure about that male morphed person that Chris gave us...still kinda feminine looking I think...mybe its the lips

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

Anton, you mentioned propack as being compatible with MOR Injection (or whatever it was called). Poser 4 vanilla works as well, correct? Eric

Dave...I wasn't after making Michael, but just as I stated...a "pretty boy" which you can't make with Michael...not to my satisfaction, in any case. But that's what's great about these Millenium products...you have so much to choose from. Cris

Eric, Yeah I have only P4 myself. Here is another one. I know you want sppecific images. I am only showing these because I am in the middle of doing add renders for the hair and makeup pak

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Chris..Mike is definitely all man :) well, I guess he does become Stephanie..quite a morpher.. I didn't read your original post close enough, or it didn't make it to the comprehension fold...

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

Thanks Anton. I think everyone here would agree, keep the renders coming, regardless of their focus! (But do hurry up and let 'er loose!) eric

Ahhh! Here's a question: Does she have a complete mouth? Can she give a full big natural smile, gums and all?

The Millennium Teeth were reworked and reshaped and built in...gums and all

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WHOO_HOOOOOOO!!!!!! ::does the happy kitty dance of joy (looks a lot like the Snoopy supper dance)::

Interesting.

Nice Job Cris. i like that face you whipped up.

Thanks for the male face. I think he looks a bit feminine, especially in the lips, but that's probably the texture map. When you come out with Mike 3 (patience, what's that?) I hope that the mesh will be able to use V3 maps (with a few exceptions, of course.) I buy a lot of Stephanie maps just so Mike has more textures. (I make sure the Steph map packages have a "no make-up" option because blue eyeshadow just doesn't do him justice ....) Well, time to go back to haunting the Daz site. Is it there yet? Is it there yet? Is it there yet?

some more

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Fun with Asian morphs

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Gotta love the diva

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Dark Lady laughed and sang and lit the candles one by one.....

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I love Barbara Eden. She influences alot of my work. My mother looked alot like her.

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THese textures are fabulous! Love the faces too >^_^

Thanks. PS: I used the Daz Global Lighting Set on all of these. Just the default set. "Pink Snowcone" was used in the first ASian image I posted here. That is what allows the real shadows yet vibrant colors. Notice the hair can cast nice shadows and yet the skin still glows. Rendered in P4

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One thing that keeps me coming back to look is her beautiful neck and clavicle. Nice job guys and gals. I can't wait to see her released.

How much longer Anton? - I'm begging you to put us out of our misery! She looks bloody brilliant!

Yup, I love that lightset. I noticed that it really brings out the detail in dark skinned characters. It's very difficult to light them properly in Poser do to the lack of radiosity. The light usually just gets absorbed by the texture, and the details are lost. Those lights change that, and really add life to the figure. I highly reccommend them for anyone working with dark skinned characters.

Guarie, Almost. As you can see we are prepping images.

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Ah man - you're killing me - I don't deal with suspense well ;)

need more male images! i dont think the male looks feminine at all (he does however look like someone i once knew- minus the blush and lipstick,...)

There is a male breast morph asside from the male morphs. You can make your own males or blend them with ours. Our faces and morphs can be used as a base. You can make her look almost like anyone you want. This is Rob's pic from the PoserPros Post. Using the musculature morphs you can dial these down. If you want less of it and boobage appears just turn up the male chest morph. Anton

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thx! /e sits here praying to the cc gods that the cc payment goes through before this gets released.... wait- how bout this- why dont i just give daz direct access to my bank account ;P you guys are killing me

V3 is looking great IMHO! And Anton, I love that hair! It has a rich fullness and depth that you don't see much of. I have to assume that the redhead above (post #163) is wearing the same hair but with a "wavy" morph? Are there other morphs to the hair?

Thanks. There is a wavy morph. The Thai lass in the top image is wearing it too. It was a flatten morph that gets real big and fabo in reverse. There are some subtle shaping, movement and length morphs. But it is a conforming figure so something like a real short morph would ruin it cause the chest of the chair would be morphed up by the chin. That would make for aweful posing. All the long hair here is that hair.

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Give the male morph a bone around his skull and you've got Bill Mumy playing "Lanier" in Babylon 5. That's the grown up version of Billy Mummy - Will Robinson.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/

anton, i know it's a bit late for it, but maybe for vicky4: you should consider modeling your figures with arms down or max at 45 bent upward. why? you see, esp. in your post #172 and further, how the texture on her shoulders gets stretched when she holds her arms close to the body. that could be avoid, imho, if the textures is originally projected on stretched polygons. bending the arm upward would only produce a natural effect of "compressing" the skin.

Here is a very sloppy render of a quick male blend using male morphs and female morphs. Quick test texture. Looks like your average college guy I think. Someone's brother. This was done by spinning some muscle morphs backwards and a few ethnic face morphs. Nothing facy. Just to show you a rough idea. Anton

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aleks, I just tested a checkerloard pattern in that spot. I think it is just jpg compression damage, but I hear what you are saying. Clever idea. Mabey we can try that on the cat. Anton

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Here's another celebrity comparison. In post # 191 the face is a near dead-on for Wil Wheaton as he appears today. Amazing! Hmm, what about "anime" or "manga" inspired morphs? Sincerely, Bill

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just a short question ... does V2 Hair fits V3? like Jim Burtons Hair or the FlipHair? Thanks Chris

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First of all, I have to say that Vicky 3 looks amazing and I can't wait to get her. Great job! Now, the questions . . . Will the male-morphed Vicky (Victor?) be able to wear Mike's cloths? Will Michael 3 have female morphs? Perhaps Stephanie will be incorporated into Mike? Thanks for listening! Jay

Hey Anton, thanks for the hair info. I'm looking forward to V3 and the hair!

she is simply a masterpeace of work! you guys always do a wonderful job on your stuff!!I just can't wait to buy her! can you render a very close shot of the face? she seams to have much more definition than the older versions! Nef

Thanks, Dan... and yes next March I would have gone into the exhibit hall looking for lions to beard if this model hadn't been more accurate. Anton, thanks for the info and for checking (not Mimic compatible? :snort!: I guess that you've seen "Thumb Wars"?). A slightly perverse sense of humor is a life-saver in today's world. Maybe she can't wiggle individual toes, but now she can wash her feet (like the classically French bronzes and the Greek marbles) without looking like Barbie. The new knees look a lot better, too. The "male morphs" are troublesome unless you can easily change body proportions. (VirtualSite brought this up elsewhere.) Hmmm... I'll append a picture of a friend and me. Brian is 5" taller (and at 6'2 1/2" is a tall man), but my waist is quite a bit higher than his! Males generally have much longer torsos than we do. Will there be a morph for changing the proportions like this, or will we have to scale each body part? BTW, thanks for being so patient despite being bombarded with questions. Carolly

With all due respect, i do not think this model was ever intended to be a "do all, be all" model. With any luck and enough relentless persual, Daz hopefully will be considering a revamp of Michael into a Mike3 version. But for now, for those of us who want a slender, fine boned, sensitive male type humaniod, this will do the job quite nicely. After all, not all of us like that heavy bone, beefy look in males, and i am grateful for the options that i have seen so far. It's a good point you brought up tho- because i was wondering about collapsing the waist length myself- for dwarven, gnome type humaniods. Personally- i would like to see that option in an add on pack, just to help keep the initial cost of the model reasonable, and to allow time for further development. After all DAZ has a full plate, with trying to get the daz studio out, ( that is still being worked on?) continuously bringing us new models (free, brokered and those created inhouse). Just my 0.01 worth ( only 0.01 because i have been slacking this month ;D )

all I want ta know is....WHEN!!??? sob sob.. yer such a tease! ;-)

What Cheryle said. heh She looks awesome guys!! I can't wait! =OD

She looks wonderful...!!!!great job!!!! I got money stashed..been waitin'. Cristmas hugz

She looks just beautiful to me. I love her hair and texture. The lipstick, (make-up), on her lip texture looks so real. Will this be on her texture maps that Daz will sell for her? If so, they will be the best ones that Daz has created.
So much for composure, patience, and maturity, I want my Vicki 3 now, WAAAHHHHHH!!!!! :D

Hey isn't post 185 a picture of Anton? Can't wait to get Vicki3!!!

Vicki 3 available now. SOOOO many items. Vicki v2 has a CD with clothing, model, textures. will there be a Vicki v3 CD? or a way to buy "most", "ALL" the 'options'? Staring bleary eyed at all the options it's confusing, giddy kinda confusing hahaha!

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