Since replacing the bad ram i had last week, I decided to see how big a file i could make and Bryce still be usable. The pic is not all that great and I prob wont do anything further with it. This puppy weighed in at 190 megs, 2 hour 8 min render. I really could have gotten away with far fewer trees but was pushing. Took almost a full minute for wire frame redraws afer a move