Hi, Well I don't know, I slope off for a week or so, (apathy :) and when I return, there a pictures of V3.0, two days later, I log in to say "Happy Christmas" and she's up and available. Heck! Still I knew that club membership would come in useful somewhere :) Just bought the lot, cost me $70, the irony is that in 10 minutes I'm getting into a taxi to go to the airport, to fly home for the holidays, I wont be back untill the 13th of January. So I'll have Victorua 3.0 in all her glory on my external drive, but no poser available to play with her, bugger! So, Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year to you all, I may drop in from the folks house, but then again maybe not. What will appear by the time I retur is anyone's guess... :P later jb The facial morphs are sodding huge...!