I just read the Zygote Q&A with Chad... and I am STILL waiting for a reply to an E mail I sent to Dan, regarding the "folded wing eagle" model...I am left with a sinking feeling that Poser 3 and even 4 figures/program versions are going to be "left in the dust"!! I have been asking the Zygote folks for a "folded wing eagle" for a long time..waiting patiently for the "big new project" to be done, and out of the way... Now it looks like Victoria (and Victor??) are taking over... I for one, did not buy Victoria..having no interest in another human model with all that I have..and all the morphs available for them. Now, here comes talk of Poser 5...but Poser 3 works fine!!(and 4 sort of..er.. I hope THAT version will be totally fixed, before another version comes out....unlike the Metacreations past trends.. !!) Does anyone else feel the same??