I know this has been discussed before, but I was too busy cussing P5 at the time to pay attention, and now I can't find the thread. I'm slowly deciding that P5 is a good thing after all, and trying to find out more about it and how to make it work without taking a week to render stuff... I want to love P5 as much as I love P4. Anyway, when I installed it, there was a horrible XP-type activation thingie, where I registered with CL and got a lot of random words sent back to me, at which point P5 was 'activated.' (I have NO idea how this all works, or what was the point of the random list of words). Now I see that in the patch, they've done away with the copy protection, because it was 'causing problems'. My questions: 1) does this mean that I can uninstall P5, re-install it, THEN immediately run the patches, and that I won't ever have to connect to CL to activate it? 2) is there likely to be any advantage in doing this? I seem to recall mention that the copy protection could cause problems with other non-CL programs, or something. Would I be better off without it? Sorry to be going over old ground! Morph