Not to beat down on it, but it seems like there's 3, 4 times as many artists in the Poser community than in any other one (Bryce, Cinema4D, 3DsMax, etc.). It seems odd, in my mind, because I've never used Poser for anything more than a quick export for a Bryce scene, and I've certainly never rendered anything in it. I understand how people might be attracted to it, but it looks like half of the renders and creations, while somewhat tasteful, always seem to drop on the nudity thing. I've never played with Barbie when I grew up, I was wondering if any of you guys have ;) Drac