How lazy are some people? [ok, maybe not as mild as I thought] But the fun with V3 is playing with those faces that are SOOOOOOOOOOO easy to make, I do believe I could make them in my sleep. So why Buy them premade? Isn't that like buying premade fun? I forgot I live in america, for a moment in whcih buying pre-made fun is a way of life-- but Poser is a world wide phenomenon so Yankee scum aren't the reason. Besides I bought one package myself [hypocrite, of course I'm a hypocrite, isn't everybody?] But that was because it had a few choices I wouldn't have tried and I don't intend to use one [ok, maybe one] that isn't heavily changed. Beisdes being obviously schizophrenic in my writing style, isnt the major pleasure of V3 shortcutted by these quickie face packs???? Please don't tell me about freedom, I'm old enough to remember freedom.:)) Emily