Well, I'm having a little trouble with the ol Joint Paramaters. As you can see. I can't understand them at all and it seems to me that it may have something to do with the rotation order. Am I on the right track? Thanks.

Well.....You don't really say what the problem is that you are having. But from the picture I can see at least two problems. 1.)The JP centerpoint is too far to the right. It should be where the third arm section meets the second arm section 2.)I also see that the second arm section is not being affected by the third section. This tells me that you probably have the parent->child set up wrong in the Heirarchy. Make sure that third arm section is a child of the second. And so on down the rest of the arm. Your rotation orders look correct. How do I know this? Because you are bending this part. And when you bend a figure in this manner. The JP handles look just like how you have them set up here. Check your Parent->child set up in the Heirarchy window. ScottA

I did what you advised, and I got nowhere. Maybe I could send you the model. This is so frustrating, cause the legs work perfectly. I just can't figure it out. Maybe if I imported him with his arms down... Would that help? Hoborg

No. Arms out is definitely the way to go. If you want to send me the files. I'll take a look at them. I'll need the .obj and .cr2 files to see what you're doing. If you used a .phi file sending me that may help me figure out any problems also. ScottA iamsba@aol.com

Thanks. It's on it's way.

Hello hoborg! Just a question: are you using the US Version of Poser4 on a non US operating system? For example on a German system ? If that's the case, look at the comma in the joint parameter values. It have to be a point NOT a comma ! BTW, I rate this as a real bug. The solution is to either set the points manualy in all fields of the joint parameter dialog, or to set the comma to the point representation in your operating system. Dont't know about the Mac's but helps on Microsoft's OSes. Bye, Arthur.