Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: To-ga, to-ga, toga!

_dodger opened this issue on Jan 16, 2003 ยท 18 posts


_dodger posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 3:57 AM

Just put this up in my Free Stuff. It's a conforming Toga clothing figure for Michael. You ever notice that a lot of the clothes for Mike that DAZ provides look like frat boy clothes*? Well, this is the next logical step. And anyway, I was really doing this as a proof-of-concept for a modelling technique I came up with for realistic drapery and folds without a cloth simulator of any sort. Yup, this whole thing is hand-modelled. For anyone who is interested, the modelling technique is described in another thread in here started by me and buried abut three or four pages because I posted it mor than ten minutes ago B^) You'll have to hut for it because I'm not going to. * I figure, based on the core clothing packs from DAZ, that Mike is either a frat boy or gay. There's just no other excuse for getting all your clothes from the Gap. Considering the clothes usually match well, look good on him, fit correctly, often show off his basket, and seem to be well ironed, combined with the build, lack of beer gut, and most of the available hairstyles, I'm guessing gay or both. It would depend, of course, on whether his cologne was CKOne or Eu de Budweiser, but we'll probably have to wait for P7 for smelltracing and the 'Scent Room'. Either way, a toga fits right in in its own way.


_dodger posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 3:58 AM


Patricia posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 7:02 AM

LOL Yeah, he does dress kinda funny.....that's my excuse for posing him with just a 'barbarian truss' and a smile ;) Beautiful work on the toga! Thank you:)))


_dodger posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 8:10 AM

No worries at all. Now you can have him fighting greek monsters, which are easy enough to make, as they are all 'Frankensteined' critters pretty much anyway.


pdxjims posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 10:13 AM

I love the way you've got the draping done. I wanted to see it a little longer, so I added a couple of morphs to it. This kind of clothing is something a lot of us have been wanting. The method you're using would really lend itself well to any ancient style (biblical, etc). You might want to try it in two pieces, a seperate top and skirt, with a belt on one or the other.

_dodger posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 10:46 AM

Coolness. Actually, it'll lend itself well to just about any realistic non-spandexy clothing, which is why I racked my brain so hard to come up with it. The toga was simply one of the most complicated meshes to make out of it, quite deliberately. Why do a proof-of-concept on something minor, after all? The biggest direct reason is because I was so unhappy with my Jedi robes at the point I decided I had to come up with the technique. For the heavily draped things, which are entirely or almost entirely made of what I'm calling 'swag lofts', the toga is just one example. I intend to make some capes, cloaks, robes, curtains, blankets, kilts, skirts, even dresses. Trenchcoats. Real ones. Nuns' habits. For the more normal things that can benefit from this technique being partly inegrated into the modelling, how about shirts that don't look like they've been given heavy starch at an overenthusiastic Chinese laundry? Sweaters. Hmm, sweaters. I'm seeing the possibility of more than tube tops and mini skirts for Vicki here... or floppy trousers for Mike. 80's AF baggies. Flares. Or those giant trousers you see the gutterpunks wearing whilst spanging in front of the seals. Yes, I think I came up with a good thing. By the way, you could asked me for the 'longer' MT. B^) Way ahead of you. Had it built before I even CR2-ed the whole thing. I'll probably stick it up in Free Stuff later on.


_dodger posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 10:48 AM

I also have in mind one with a bronze breastplate over the top and a double-layered Romanesque 2-piece nobleman's toga. See page 94 of Burne Hogarth's Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery book for an example of what I mean.


pdxjims posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 11:17 AM

Hey guy! Let me have a little fun! I just figured out how to morph in Anim8or (can't afford a Rhino etc). I knew you'd do a long one, but I wanted to see if I could. This is a really cool method. And it's given me an idea to try on something myself, as soon as I figure out a little more in Anim8or. Today I'm actually going to read the manual! Ain't that scary! Thanks for the freebie, BTW.


Dizzie posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 11:19 AM

Ummm, I have clicked on the download button 5 times, but I still can't find it....it opens to a page that autmatically opens to full screen and all that's there is 2 for sale items, even though the page says it's Free items...no scroll bars to scroll the page and no links to to anything that looks like it might be there....can you give the exact url please...

Bongo posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 11:23 AM

scroll down. The Toga is Tops!!


Bongo posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 11:26 AM

BTW Mike is not gay! He's just very neat, likes broadway musicals, and hangs out at fern bars. Hey, it could happen!


_dodger posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 11:57 AM

Dizzie: The page doesn't open to full screen. It sets itself to 850x800 and centres itself. Below that size the layers scrunch weird. blinks What resolution do you have your monitor at? You're not doing digital art on a monitor set at 800x600 are you? I was depressed when I had to send back the monitor I had for work-from-home at my jopb before they canned me, because mine only goes up to 1280x1024. If all else fails, press the down arrow on the arrow keypad of your keyboard. Or the 'Page Down' key. Or use the mouse wheel. Or grab the left side of the window (I can see it there in your screen shot) and drag it over so the window shrinks. Or here's the simplest one... right click the program toolbar button on the start bar there and select 'Maximise' which will actually shrink it to your screen's size. But seriously, if you're doing digital art you want to be working at a higher resolution than that, which is why I went ahead with a larger format design for the page. I put the for-sale stuff on the page first now so people can't completely ignore it and be cheap bastards. The non-free stuff pays for me to be able to make the free stuff.


_dodger posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 11:58 AM

BTW, trust me, there are waaaaay more than 2 items on my page. Waaaay more. And all but like 5 are free.


wyrwulf posted Thu, 16 January 2003 at 8:52 PM

Great stuff, Dodger, thanks. I'm going to hunt for the modeling thread. What is your reason for the auto resize of the download page? It mucks up my preset window size with Explorer5, and I have to reset it to my preference. Not a real big deal compared to good freestuff, though.


_dodger posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 12:18 AM

wywulf: if the window is too small, the content underlaps the sidebar layer.


wyrwulf posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 12:22 AM

I'm running a pretty high resolution on my monitor, so your resize shrinks my default setting.


_dodger posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 1:56 AM

wyrwulf: that's cool. I'm not a super Javascript expert, so it would take me a while to modify the script to only resize if the page is smaller. As to if the screen resolution is too small, I don't even know how to detect that except in Netscrape, and I'm not even sure it can be done in IE. Turning off active scripting for the page will prevent it, but it will also make it so that the '### downloads today' on the free stuff props won't show up, as that's added in as a client-side include using Javascript generated by a CGI script that counts the requests in the server logs.


wyrwulf posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 6:49 PM

No problem. Like I said, it's just a small thing to handle to be able to get your stuff.