Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Attn PhilC :o)

pokeydots opened this issue on Jan 17, 2003 ยท 23 posts


pokeydots posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 2:36 PM

Phil, just wanted to say thank you, and let you know I got the cd! Here is my first try at clothing following your tutorial. I haven't made it poser ready yet, but I'm working on it :)

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PhilC posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 2:51 PM

Lookin good :)

I'm glad that you are finding the Tutorial CD helpful. I'd be very interested to see how this dress comes out. You have made a great start.

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pokeydots posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 3:07 PM

Thanks Phil! I'll let you know when its done :0)

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ladynimue posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 3:08 PM

Hey Pokeydots can you make that in a size 5, burgundy velvet? I would love it for Valentines day :)

Hey Phil, how about a link to your tutorial, so everyone can see how Pokey came to create this wonderful dress :)

ladynimue


PhilC posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 3:15 PM

Attached Link: http://www.philc.net/tutorial2.htm

umm ok :)

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Dizzie posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 3:17 PM

Oh Pokey, you did an outstanding job with it! I can't wait to see it finished!


ladynimue posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 3:21 PM

Thanks for sharing Phil :) ladynimue


ziggie posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 3:28 PM

nice work pokeydots. I have been VERY tempted to buy PhilC's clothing CD for some time... it's not the cost that puts me off... but I think it will be over my head or beyond my meagre capabilities. Unfortunately, I can't judge you as an average user, because... from the work you do and post, I am surprised that you even needed Phil's CD. But... in your opinion... is Phil's CD as easy as it sorta sounds..? Is it suitable/feasible for Poser Dummies..? :)

"You don't have to be mad to use Poser... but it helps"


jkm posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 3:42 PM

I went to the talks PhilC did at DragonCon on how to make clothing. PhilC walked through the steps and breaks the process down it to easily managed chunks. I'm not a 3d artist by any stretch of the imagination but I found the way the PhilC presented the material and explained things to be very informative and easy to follow. I definately recommend getting his tutorial.


ziggie posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 4:06 PM

thanx jkm. Are you related..? ;) Joe King

"You don't have to be mad to use Poser... but it helps"


jkm posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 4:29 PM

Nope, not related. Just impressed by his ability to turn a complex subject into something I could understand.


pokeydots posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 6:41 PM

I would say to go for the cd, because his way of doing things are easier than most. Believe me, I'm not a modeler by any means! I've done one dress before and a character, bbboy. I haven't even gotten through the whole cd yet, but I would recommend it to anyone. I used rhino for the dress. If you know something about the modeling program your using (I know very little about Rhino) you can follow along! His modeling style seems to work with any program :)

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hauksdottir posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 6:56 PM

I think it is because Phil used to own a plumbing business. In order to get water into a house and waste out of it, you need to link a lot of pipes, one piece to the next, with oodles of little connector-whatzits, and not get anything confused or misled in the process. If you can do that and deal with inspectors and bureaucrats, then describing step-by-step how to make a garment so that everyone is happy with the results ought to be easy. (Of course, after dealing with our housing inspectors, wrestling piranhas would seem easy.) In any case, Phil has the right sort of mind and patience for this, and his explanations have been very clear. Carolly


dlfurman posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 7:35 PM

That CD is on my "MUST GET" list! (Gotta pay off the CreditCard man first though!)

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dlfurman posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 7:35 PM

That CD is on my "MUST GET" list! (Gotta pay off the CreditCard man first though!)

"Few are agreeable in conversation, because each thinks more of what he intends to say than that of what others are saying, and listens no more when he himself has a chance to speak." - Francois de la Rochefoucauld

Intel Core i7 920, 24GB RAM, GeForce GTX 1050 4GB video, 6TB HDD space
Poser 12: Inches (Poser(PC) user since 1 and the floppies/manual to prove it!)


Firebirdz posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 8:15 PM

Can we use Amapi 3D instead of Rhino?


Crescent posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 8:47 PM

While PhilC's CD does cover modelling, it covers a lot more than just that aspect, so the modelling program doesn't matter as much. If you are comfortable making the mesh in another program, the CD is still worthwhile for learning the process. You need to be able to do is turn that mesh into .obj format, though. Amapi 3D does that in version 6, but I don't know about version 5. (I hope it does in version 5 as a free version of Amapi 5 is coming out soon on Computer Arts Magazine.) If you want to follow along with the full CD, PhilC uses trueSpace as his program of choice and you can get trueSpace 3 for free if you purchase 3D World Magazine, issue 32 or 33. (The mag is $14 in the U.S.) The only drawback is I don't know of a free .cob to .obj converter. There are a few tS plug-ins, but they work with tS 4 and beyond. If you like the tS program from the magazine, you can get tS 6 with native .obj handling at about 1/2 off if you order by 30 April through the magazine. Cheers! (Not meaning to be a walking advertisement ...) ;-)


tasquah posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 9:04 PM

I though Crossroads did a COB to OBJ conversion ?


Firebirdz posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 9:46 PM

Thanks Crescent. I got all the magazines - which has Truespace 3, Amapi 3D 5.15 and Lightwave Discovery Edition. I tried installing them all. Noticed that Amapi 3D v5.15 does not have WinXP version but the interface seems the least intimidating. The Lightwave one freaked me out at first glance. Is it worth it upgrading the Truespace one or the Amapi 3D one ?


Crescent posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 11:17 PM

tasquah - Ummm ... where's the Crossroads conversion? Inquiring minds need to know! firebirdz - I'm still waiting for the magazine with Amapi 5.15. I have XP so I may be SOL. I haven't found much in the way of trueSpace tutorials, but there are a few books out there on how to use tS. I haven't started the Lightwave tutorials yet from the magazine. (Well, actually, I started one of the tutorials on the CD, but I got really bored listening to the guy yak away without getting to the point.) I'd just go and play with both for a few weeks and see which one is easier to use. DAZ uses Lightwave, and it is one of the industry tools. Amapi and tS are lower end. I have Rhino, so that's probably what I'm going to use for clothing. (I have a shirt done, but the jp's aren't working for some reason. I may have to re-do part of the mesh.)


tasquah posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 1:26 AM

Attached Link: http://www.designaline.co.za/3DGSUV/3dgsuv_pages/3dgsVoice_programs_skinning.html

LithUnwrap will convert COB to OBJ i believe . Its allot like UVmapper . Or you can get Crossroads here : http://home.europa.com/~keithr/crossroads/

Crescent posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 10:02 AM

Yeah! Thanks so much! Cres


TwoDigital posted Thu, 23 January 2003 at 11:42 AM

Just don't turn on any gravity simulation in your modelling software. She only has one (off-center) leg. :) The dress looks very nice.