Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Need some tutorial ideas...

amon_g opened this issue on Jan 29, 2003 ยท 18 posts


amon_g posted Wed, 29 January 2003 at 5:53 PM

Well, I've been asked to help out with some tutorials for the Back Room. So, I figured I'd ask the community what kind of Poser 5 tutorials would you like to see? I've got a pretty good working knowledge of P5 and anything I don't know, I'm willing to learn. So, suggest away. This is my chance to repay the Renderosity community for all of the help and learning resources. Thanks, ~ Brent


TCSP posted Wed, 29 January 2003 at 6:04 PM

heres an idea... anyone ever use an old animation style of rotoscoping with poser and a live-action background plate? with the figure set to line, one can trace the background actor with a poser figure. id be interested in reading anything anyone has on the subject, trials and tribulations. ~;)


Crescent posted Wed, 29 January 2003 at 6:46 PM

How about walking someone through creating a short hair style? The P5 tutorial section defines all the freaking dials, but it really doesn't show what to do with them all. Tutorials on creating different textures in the Materials Room would also be nice.


amon_g posted Wed, 29 January 2003 at 8:00 PM

TCSP & Crescent thanks for the suggestions. Rotoscoping is something that I have done in the past through After Effects, but that was following a tutorial and remove wires from a "flying" lady:) But I would love to start doing some CG Live Action scences. This is definitly something I want to look into, but I think at another time:) I was thinking about doing the cloth (although there are good tutorials out there) and hair room. I've got a pretty good understanding of the cloth room, but I still have some challenges with the Hair room, so this would be a great experience. Materials Room is on the list too. I think I'll do the cloth room first, to give me a little more time to study the Hair and Materials room. Thanks for the suggestions! :) ~ Brent


cainbrogan posted Wed, 29 January 2003 at 10:11 PM

Awsome! Hey where did my post go... Anyhows, I just did a search for a Cloth Room Tut., in the R-Sity Tutorials area, but came up empty handed! Any idea of if you'll use my example of Awful Soul's Free Loin at all? What kind of timeframe have you planned for this? I'd like to include this WIP in Febuaries Poser Challenge. Maybe you could start by posting images here in this thread?

= )


Lyrra posted Wed, 29 January 2003 at 10:54 PM

something basic in the hair room, material room, and cloth room would be ideal. The hair room is fun but I'm still randomly twiddling dials in there :) Also a 'how to change the materials' tutorial. Took a little while to get the hang of the silly pluggy things... (what were they thinking?) I had to switch out a hait texture and the first time it took me five minutes to find the right thing to hook it ino sigh



amon_g posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 6:37 AM

Those plugs are a pain in the butt:) But they can give you some interesting effects if you plug them into the wrong nodes;) Cainbrogan, here are a couple of sample images I put together using the cloth room. Some of them aren't the best quality, but I was really just trying to get the hang of it:) In this image I was trying to see if V3 could use Hmann's Dynamic Clothing pack. The skirt took a little tweaking, and on the body the shirt is a little too big in the chest area...

amon_g posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 6:37 AM

In this one I was trying to see if I could get collisions to work on both the character and a prop.

amon_g posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 6:38 AM

A dynamic cloth "action" shot

amon_g posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 6:40 AM

And another test of a sitting character... this is one of my favorites:) Hey, thanks for taking the time to look at these:) Time to, a-hem, work:) Have a great day everyone! ~ brent ~

cainbrogan posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 10:33 AM

How is my theory that the loin would be pulled by gravity, untill it conforms to the shape of M2's waist, holding? = )


amon_g posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 10:47 AM

Well, if the waist band was set up as a constrained group in the cloth room, it wouldn't move when you calculated the dynamics, so gravity wouldn't effect it. PhilC did something similar on his Haltertop tutorial PhilC's Tutorial Site.

And by using the constrained group on the waist, you could have everything else effected by gravity, which would give you a really cool look. Especially if you had him flying through the air. I'd recommend setting up a couple of key frames with motion (at least moving along the XTran) or use the Wind Generator.

Oh, and also, if you set the waist (in case you didn't want to do the constrained group) to collide with the Abdoman and Hips it wouldn't go anywhere either. You'd just have to make sure it didn't colide with M2.

Hopefully this makes some sense... I don't think I've had enough coffee this morning:)

~ brent ~


amon_g posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 10:53 AM

Hey Lyrra,

On the Mat Lab tutorial, do you think it would be useful to explain what each of the nodes are and what they do? I know trying to figure out what the heck a Math node did cause me some consternation. That would also give me more of an opportunity to learn a little more about the nodes myself. Anyway... I guess I should go to lunch now:)

~ brent ~


EsnRedshirt posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 12:45 PM

Definately more node stuff... actually, I may do a "Skin Node" tutorial myself sometime, but it's on the back burner, at least till I get some project backlog done...


MachineClaw posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 1:20 PM

Material room node tut, please. I think I use 3 of them have no idea what the others are there for. A really good tutorial on 'simulations', I understand it, well sort of but it confuses me everytime I try one. Everytime I do one I'm suprised it worked and can't remember what I did to get it to work haha! Any tutorials would be most helpful, however, step by step with visual screen captures PLEASE! These help SOOO much. The Poser5 manual ain't bad, but a lot of time they talk about something and I have no visual ref to learn it. Worst tutorials are the some of the ones I run across with "...now you do this in Poser5 just like you would in poser 4, now lets move on..." and I'm left raising my hand in the back of class "Hello, I'm new on planet earth, whats poser 4?" hahaha!


amon_g posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 2:23 PM

Cool... more node stuff. Thanks EsnRedshirt. If you beat me to the Skin Node, I'd like to see it.

I know what you mean MachineClaw, putting these tutorial/explanations together should help me understand the materials room better:)

I definitely believe that the tutorials should be visual and step by step. I'm not talking completely simplistic but something that's not vague either (unlike this sentence;)).

And don't worry, I won't do a "...now you do this in Poser5 just like you would in Poser4." I haven't used P4 since the release of P5 and I've slept since then so I don't remember much;)

Thanks for the input, and keep it coming. I should have time this weekend to actually sit down and start working on these tutorials (and work on my Banner Contest entry, just in case any moderators are looking;).

~ brent ~


kbennett posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 6:07 PM

Oh yeah Brent, we're looking alright ;) Sounds like you have some great ideas there to get you going. And keep you going G Kev.


amon_g posted Thu, 30 January 2003 at 6:10 PM

LOL:) Yeah... This should keep me busy for a while, but it'll be a whole lot of fun and I'm really looking forward to getting to work. ~ brent ~