Hi Ive had Bryce for a while now but have only recently started to play with it. I finally managed with the help of 'grouper' to get my Mil-Dragon to render correctly but what I have noticed is that all of the objects have very sharp and defined edges almost as if I had cut the mountains and the dragon out of card and pasted them down on a background. When I use the render options and set depth of field the objects in the image just get 'sprayed out' like when you are driving in the rain and you have to slow down becase the rain is beating the wipers and the oncomming cars are just vague blurs. what an I missing or can you point me to a good tutorial. thanks in advance Dave.