I asked this over on the 3d apps forum but no-one there seems to care (sniffle) so I'm retrying here...is it possible, is there ANYTHING I can get, that will let me convert .mdl models from hash animation master 98 into some format that poser can import? The new version of AM has dxf conversion but I only have 98 that has, in terms of export, a whole lotta nuthin'. In terms of internal stuff tho it has a pretty darn good modeller and I've managed to actually learn how to use it, so before I get RDS and the hideous learning curve that will know doubt go with it, I want to see if I can find a way to work with what I've already got. Help, help? I tried 3dwin but it didn't seem to care about animation master...or I just don't understand that app, also a possibility. (note, if you've never heard of animation master it's definitely worth checking out...www.hash.com. Tons of features for 300 bux.) mary