Well, New would be an overstatement. On the advice of a friend, I've ordered a Vue bundle. Vue 4, Mover 4 and Poser 4. As an avid Mac user, here's my situation. I know Vue 4 is Mac OSX ready. Is Mover 4? And even though this isn't the Poser forum, I'm hoping someone else is in this situation. Does Poser 4 work well in classic mode, or am I going to be rebooting into 9 to work with Poser, and then going back to OSX for Vue? All the rest of my production environment is in X, so I'm hoping poser will work there too. And finally, I'm currently using Bryce 4 in Classic. I've already choosen to go to Vue from Bryce, since I placed the order today, but am I gonna be happy? Michael