I wish I could remember who it was that suggested changing portrait focal lengths to 100 mm, but I tried that this evening (I have to admit I haven't played with this too much before) and found 2 very different looking women. Notice the facial width/length and the eyes and especially the nose (as he noted). I did change the lighting color just slightly but it is lighted from about the same angle so I could get a good comparison. Quite illuminating for me. So--which one is the 'real' woman *G*? Diane B