I get spam from them trying to sell new products when I don't see any word about P5 being fixed... I see that the beta forum is dead.... I see that CL would prefer us to visit the curious news section of their website which hasn't been updated since they announced it. And they use it to push other products. How long do we wait before organizing some sort of class action? They were friends, nice people...... but I am thinking enough is enough. I want something done. I am sure it was "just business" when kupa and crew got creamed. I think that they should be prepared to face similar action from the users that have been swindled. Befor I get attacked from the blindly faithful, please review the last bug list we had (if you can find it in the now defunct beta forum) before telling me everything runs fine for you.