Hi I am a 3d Studio master but a total newbie to poser so here is my dilema (sp?) .... I am in poser and I load up the Judy mesh into the pose room. Judy is a pretty shapely woman and maybe just a little too shapely, so I decide to 'morph' her into a slightly new female... thinner belly longer torso and longer legs and longger arms.... I keep her head in its original judy state so that I can change it whenever. I create a library setting of her and name her samantha... So now I have a model that I can export to MAX to start modeling armor around her. I am all done with the modeling of the armor. I have imported and scaled and positioned my pieces of armor to fit around the samantha model that I have saved as a preset... here is where I am stuck... I have created some 'cyber' boots that actually reach up to her thighs. I have set the parent object for the boots to be the thighs of the mesh with the inherit bends checkbox checked. I get the boots linked and I am happy with that, until I try and rotate the shin. once I rotate the shin, both the shin and foot come strait out of the boot... I tried to use the grouping tool in the pose room and set an auto group and then clean it up with custom group selections. this didnt seem to do anything... I tried going into the setup room figuring I will have to rig the boots. I get into the setup room and load up my samantha model to obtain her skeleton but before I get there I get a pop up window explaining that my morphs are going to make the process unstable. well I decide to give it a go anyway and find that my samantha morph doesnt translate to her skeleton in the setup room... infact it is just a short, smaller breasted judy in the setup room. So, do I have to re-rig my samantha morphs in the setup room to essentially make a new charachter? or is there a better way to make th boots fit inside the pose room? well I hope I was clear enough in my query... I wish there was more documentation about these processes available... well thank you in advance if you need images I will post them tonite being that I am at work right now ... Bastiff Belial