i need to find a "nautilus shaped" solid object that i can render as wireframe in poser. ulitmately like to be able to render as solid too but not as necessary. i have searched the web for available objects but to no avail. can anyone help. willing to pay for a suitable object. the nautilus is a consistently proportioned spiral. refer to: http://www.sacredarch.com/sacred_geo_exer_shell.htm mike

Attached Link: http://www.evolve.co.uk/helixir/

The free program, Helixir, might do what you want. It's a PC(EXE) program. Here is a quickie I did. Helixir only exports POV/UDO and RAW formats, so you would need another program to convert to a Poser usable mesh.

Attached Link: http://www.armanisoft.ch/webdesign/Spiralizer.htm

Also check out the free tool Spiralizer from Armanisoft. It should also generate these for you nicely. Frank

thanks for your help guys!!!! i now have a very cool nautilus that i can render in poser. i downloaded a converter from www.tb-software.com that converted a *.raw to an *.obj and using uvmapper i was able to add a texture. mike