Hi Well as I said this is my first real attempt to create an image using Bryce5. Before now I've mainly used it to create terrain and skys to use in poser. Ok what I intended to do was try to show off the Dragon and this just 'happened'. The idea I had was he's attacking no he's hunting ..big creature ...big food what will he eat in the sea thats big enough a whale(nah like whales) a shark ,great white (I like sharks/whites too but well poetic justice?) well what's the problem i here you say? Ok first off you tell me how I can improve the pic. what do I think needs fixing (perfectionist talking here) -the rocks on the beach esp big one have too much of an edge to them as if they were cut from card and placed on (2d?) -the shark needs some 'bow wash'/ripples/waves to show movement ....but how I did think place a flat surface over it to simulate water somehow cut shark out ?bolean? then use this as a tmplate in terrain editor to make waves however can't figure how to do it... any and all comments welcome Dave