Almost forgot, but was looking for my usual Scientific American and Discovery magazine noticed Rochr's picture on the 3D World one. Usually avoid them as its not truelly free (about $20) so expensive as magazines go. Must say its nice to see someone from here on a high end magazine cover. Some fine work getting recognized and picked above what im sure was many many of the high end app pics and models. On a side note it does come with the student version of Maya 4.5 plus fully operations Amapi 5.15, just couldn't resist. Possible the free amapi is old news... i follow most postings here but could have missed it. Course my copy came with the barely used Carrara Studio from last year. Did use it to make the alien text columns from 2 pictures ago, it can be useful.