I think I just figured out how to make a morph target to create a specific face. Ok let me explain. I started with Vicky 2 and spun the dials to create a face I like. I followed a tutorial somewhere where it said to click object > spawn morph target and name it the face I choose. I have done that. (Havent tested it yet) But if I did this right, how to I save as a .obj MT to share with others in free stuff, or can that even be done?? If I didnt do it right, I feel really stupid and please correct me. LOL Annette