Hi all, Been a lurker for a while now, and finally got the point where I need to /de-lurk. I've been creating a scene for an image of mine. it happens to be a 'shrine'. With pillars, steps and a little alcove. I've been using the standard props which come with poser 4 - boxes, cylinders and suchlike all textured up. My question is this. I'd like to export the lot as a prop. Reading the manual seems to indicate that I can do this, but when I select the grouping tool (to group all my boxes and bits) and create a nice 'shrine' object, it lets me select only one object (covering all the polygons in it). I can't seem to figure out how to select all my objects and group it to be 'shrine' object. Is this possible? I did work around this by simply 'adding' to my props library and selecting the bits I want to export. Which kinda works.. But... to make it easier to move around I parented them all to my bit of shrine wall. Well, when I add the prop back (I need alot of pillars) - it comes back all messed up with incorrect scaling, and nothing parented :( Moving 15 or so objects individually and lining them all back up is a pain. How do people create props with more than one object in them and get them to import right, and all glued together? Finally... beam I saw, some time ago.. somewhere... an extension for the props types - things like concave spheres, spiky torus's and things like that. For the life of me I can't find it anymore. Anyone have a clue where I might get a hold of it? (I've looked here and on poserforum - but sadly no luck). Finally.. thanks for all the help you guys dish out. As a dedicated lurker I've learnt in leaps and bounds since I first found the place... Elemar the Teabag.