Ok, I just recently got brave enough to reinstall Poser 5 again. I've downloaded the patches from Curious Labs, and I installed them. So why doesn't it work? Blah. At the moment, I'm having problems with the camera tracking controls. Rotating the camera works, but none of the pan controls seem to work the way they do in Poser 4. Instead of panning the camera along a plane, the camera just jitters around and then lurches off in some random direction. All I've done so far is Open the program. Delete the standard dork figure from the workspace (not the library) and set the empty studio as the prefered startup state. Load the P4 Horse Open the Hair Room. Created a new Hair group called Mane Selected the horse's head to start trying to select polygons And as soon as I tried to pan the camera to get a better view of the horse, blammo, the camera controls go straight to the toilet. Am I doing something wrong here, or does this program just still not work? I have not installed any other plugins, python scripts, or even any of the extra models from the content CD. The only thing I've added is the Full SR1 patch, and the SR1 to SR2 patch. I also tried exiting the program restarting, and then loading a ball prop (so I have something to look at) and panning the camera again, and it still does the same thing. I'm glad I only paid the upgrade price on it, anyway. I'd be really annoyed if I'd had to pay full price for this kind of preformance.