Blackhearted opened this issue on Apr 13, 2003 ยท 62 posts
Blackhearted posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 4:59 PM
jeweldragon posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:01 PM
lol you are warped :-P i dont have one hehe
Rio posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:03 PM
Blackhearted posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:04 PM
one day, little grasshopper, you will develop the mouse callous into truly heroic proportions... ..and then you shall learn to walk on the rice-paper
TheWanderer posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:05 PM
Hi Get a mouse mat with a rest or a seperate rest at least thats what they tell us at work! Mines caused through playing multiplayer games on my friends networked machines while lying on his livingroom floor. Dave
Blackhearted posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:11 PM
if anyone can produce undoctored photos of a mouse callous that will defeat my mouse callous, i will burn all of my products onto a CD and mail it to them. call it the new 'annual renderosity mouse callous awards' :)
SamTherapy posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:11 PM
Mouse calluses, no. Guitar calluses, yes. I use a wrist support for mouse and keyboard, so that part of my hand/wrist doesn't ever drag across the desk.
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Ms_Outlaw posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:12 PM
I have a trackball, but some nights I do have thumbanightis... of course that could just be old age creeping up. ~G~
Rio posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:14 PM
lol silly i HAVE a mouse pad.. it doesnt matter, as long as you drag your wrist you'll get one ;) lol i JUST noticed this liek 5 min ago... how funny... we are the silly ones ;)
Valandar posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:16 PM
I thought Mouse Callouses came from running in those wheel things... wait, those are hamster callouses...
Remember, kids! Napalm is Nature's Toothpaste!
Blackhearted posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:16 PM
the scarier thing is that ive actually worn smooth all the 'texture' from most of my mouse, and some of the letters off my keyboard :) kindof reminds me of the steps of ancient buildings - how the passage of time and millions of feet will wear down even granite... quite frightening when you think about it :)
Blackhearted posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:18 PM
val - come on, post a pic of yours. or are you afraid that my mouse callous will defeat your mouse callous? bwaHAHAHahahaaa -- tremble at the sight of my mouse callous :) fear its might!
Valandar posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:20 PM
Heh, I don't callous easily... ALL of my skin is leathery. Also, all I have to take a pic with is a dinky webcam... but since you asked... gimme a few minutes for P5 to finish a cloth sim, and I'll post one, bro.
Remember, kids! Napalm is Nature's Toothpaste!
Replicant posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:23 PM
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JVRenderer posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:25 PM
I didnt know we had a competittion on mouse callouses. Guess I shouldnt have bought that optical scroll mouse and the padded mousepad.
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praxis22 posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:28 PM
Strangely enough I have no calous, just a lump like Rio and an area of very very smooth red skin. I do have a mat, but it's for the mouse as the table I have here is a lousy contact. Don't use one at work. later jb
Dizzie posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:42 PM
ROTFLLLL Replicant!
Valandar posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:52 PM
Remember, kids! Napalm is Nature's Toothpaste!
Rio posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:56 PM
stares at baba's weirdly purple thumb
Blackhearted posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:56 PM
congrats man :) shakes val's hand you are now an offical computer-slug :)
Blackhearted posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 5:58 PM
"stares at baba's weirdly purple thumb" lol... didnt have the flash turned on, and i have 'fluorescent lighting compensation' turned on on the camera (and we nio longer have fluorescent lights, heh), so that might be the reason for the discoloration. my thumb is actually white :)
maclean posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 6:02 PM
Hmmm.... I don't have any calluses on my hands, and here's why... 1. I use a LARGE table just for the kb and mouse, and spread out all over it (with a separate table behind it for my computers and monitors). 2. I don't use a mouse mat. I use a graphic artist's cutting board. Measures 30 x 40 cm, costs about $10, and NEVER wears out. 3. I use the kb whenever humanly possible. Of course, I do have a large callus on my butt from sitting here all day. Does that count? mac PS Don't panic! I'm not going to post a pic of it. LOL.
BeatYourSoul posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 6:05 PM
Mouse calluses, no. Guitar calluses, yes. I use a wrist support for mouse and keyboard, so that part of my hand/wrist doesn't ever drag across the desk. Yes, guitar calluses are a good thing at least. And I also use a wrist support for both my keyboard and, umm, what's a "mouse", trackball. Nothing worse for a guitarist than CPS. BYS
JVRenderer posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 6:07 PM
Hm I think a little magnet trick or a callous dial will do the trick......
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SamTherapy posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 6:27 PM
Colossal pains in my wrists, elbows and fingers. Getting old is no fun at all. :( One ray of hope - I was told by a surgeon a couple of years ago that I'm actually helping my condition by playing a musical instrument. Yes, it's a repetetive motion, but a different one. So, all you people who don't play music, now may be a good time to learn. The intro to Ziggy Stardust is: ||:G///|D///|C(add9)///|////:|| 4x Learn that and come back to me. :)
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maclean posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 6:36 PM
I learnt that one the day the album came out. LOL. Yep, guitar calluses, I got.... but I don't count them. They've been a part of me for so long. mac PS My current favorite is Slow Burn - F/Am - Cool song.
Replicant posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 6:38 PM
I've never been tempted to play any musical instrument ever since my Mum thumped me for whistling dirty songs. :o).
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MachineClaw posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 6:49 PM
A whole CD collection??! oh I can beat your mouse easally. mine is almost purple and rather large. 8hrs on puter mouse at work, then come home and another 4-6 almost every night hahaha! woooo I need a life. Maybe it's my hand and that's why I can't get a date. Oh, wait, that would require me to be outside the house or not working, nevermind. I am seeing a doctor about the loss of feelin and the developing carple tunnel I got. looks over at the Wacom on the floor, one day, yes one day
Blackhearted posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 6:56 PM
machineclas - pictures speak louder than words :) my callous will defeat your callous :)
fauve posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 7:00 PM
Mine's only about the size of Rio's. We both have dainty, ladylike callouses. :) Maybe that'd be enough to win me Frazella, anyway. But gah, I have no digital camera. Gabe, that's a whopper. I think you're going to remain undefeated. Now for God's sake, dude, go out and get some fresh air!
Lucy_Fur posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 7:15 PM
Closely examines wrist.....damn... No callous to speak of - maybe because I have a cigarette ash burn scar that I got when I was four (NO - I didn't smoke - my dad's cig ash dropped on me) in that particular spot. BUT, I did notice a particular habit I have - don't know if it's because I use an optical mouse - but from working all those wretched year at the Post Office, the meaty part on the heel of my palm is like really big - it looks freakish to me L. I don't drag my mouse/wrist around - I tend to lift the mouse up with my fingers and bring it back - so in lieu of a callous - that area of 'meat' on my hand is red from being rested on all the time and all the lines/texture have almost been worn off...
Ravnheart posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 7:30 PM
Well I dont have a callous because when mine started I went and bought a mouse pad with a wrist pad :P But what I have I cant show ya. My back is trashed due to sitting in a piece of crap chair for a year. Always remember the most important piece of equipment you will ever own is a great chair! :)
Rio posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 7:46 PM
Always remember the most important piece of equipment you will ever own is a great chair! :) Amen!!! ahem baba dear
BeatYourSoul posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 9:09 PM
The only thing you have to watch when playing guitar, especially classical, is over bending the wrists, which isn't a good thing while flexing your fingers. On the other hand, plectrum picking is probably good as it'll strengthen your wrist and arm without the undue stress. Oh, of course I meant CTS (carpal tunnel syndrome). My brain is on standby today; must be the a brain callus. :) BYS
Kageboshi posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 9:13 PM
Sorry to say, no such thing for me!
bknoh posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 9:41 PM
No callous, but I did fight a strange rash for a few months that appeared on my thumb, the side of my index finger, and the top of finger #2. Took me a whole month to figure out that those were my mousing fingers and I had developed an allergy to my mouse. Diane
ChuckEvans posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 10:30 PM
LOL, BH, now are you REALLY expecting us to believe that callous came from mouse strokes? Or Rio strokes? (sorry, just kidding) Serioiusly, dude, you need to revamp your mouse. Change your settings. It may be rough at first, but you'll get used to it. I've adjusted the settings on mine so that I never move my wrist once it's on the table. (I say table 'cause I opted--LOL, pun intended--for an optical mouse a few years ago). I use a mouse so much (work in IT 8 hours a day and then add to mouse-usage at home) I actually got it 'cause I was tired of cleaning the ----ing lint out of the darn thing every 2 months or so. So, as I am trying to explain...I can go from one corner of the screen to the other with less than a half inch movement on the table. So, my wrist just lays there while my palm (and fingers) guide mouse movements. Since it's optical, I don't use a mousepad and it REALLY glides on the desk surface (a quick wiping with Windex once every 2 months or so makes it glide like a dry towel on a freshly-waxed car surface). PS: Tell Rio I bought 4 decks of "her" cards. I say, "hers" 'cause I will see the back she did on every card. 2 decks for me and 2 decks for gifts.
Patricia posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 10:33 PM
Just the barest patch of roughened skin on my wrist, but my Other Half refers to me as a real "Mouse Potato" which should count for something ;)
LaurieA posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 10:43 PM
ChuckEvans posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 10:48 PM
...(and if you have the mouse options installed), turn on the one that records mileage. That will REALLY freak you out!
Rio posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 10:49 PM
rotf@chuck!!!!!!!!!! actually i have an optical mouse too..still gettin a callous! ;) i use a mouse pad cuz w/o one it wears away the pretty finish on my desk :( so i must protect it! "my" cards?! lolololol! youre so cute ;) BRAVO to Laurie!!! I think we have a winner!!!!!!! see she didnt wuss out on us! go girl!
Blackhearted posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 10:53 PM
ACK!!!! goddamnit!! throws in the towel beaten... and by a girl no less UGH!!!! well laurie, unless someone else posts a mightier callous than thine, youve won the trophy in the first annual renderosity mouse callous awards :) email me at caerlon@hotmail.com with where you want the cd mailed to :) bet you'd never thought anything good would come out of that thing, huh? youll never look at it the same way again :) snicker
Blackhearted posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 10:54 PM
a mouse odometer? rofl id be willing to bet that ive 'moused' further than ive walked this last year :) but i dont know wether i should be proud, or horrified at that :(
Rio posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 10:55 PM
squooshes her puter slug Hooray for Laurie!!
LaurieA posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 11:00 PM
LOL Rio...I ain't shy ;o). My hubby hates it (and so do I really...makes me look like a TRUE geek...LOL)! Actually, it was bigger than this if you can believe it, but I work on it sometimes with an emery board! Yeah, I really said that ;o). I gotta get a life...LOL. Anyone got one they can lend me? Hehehehehe... I tried the wrist pad thing, but I can't get the freedom of movement that I really need. So I sacrificed good looks (ha) for my craft ;o). I tell ya, the sacrifices we make...hehehehe. Laurie
LaurieA posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 11:08 PM
CD Gabriel? I didn't even read that post...LOL. I'm drooling already, but let it go awhile. Some one HAS to have one bigger than mine ;o). I hope...hehehehe (although I would LOVE to have the cd...LOL). Laurie
ChuckEvans posted Sun, 13 April 2003 at 11:22 PM
"id be willing to bet that ive 'moused' further than ive walked this last year :) but i dont know wether i should be proud, or horrified at that :( " Gotta agree with that one, BH! (nice thread you started...hehe)
FishNose posted Mon, 14 April 2003 at 2:53 AM
Lol - what a bunch of geeks we are!! I don't have a wrist callous, I have that part of my hand just off the edge of the table. And I lift my mouse all the time. But the alternate pivot point then is your elbow. So I have callouses/rashes on both tips of my elbows from the armrests of my computer chair that need perpetual cortisone ointment treatment to stay reasonable. Oh lordy.... I think I'll go out and ride my bike :o) :] Fish
FishNose posted Mon, 14 April 2003 at 2:57 AM
.... And oh yeah, making music doesn't help my elbows at all, since I do my music making on the 'puter as well. A complete studio with keyboards, mixers, racks of synths, samplers and sequencer, loops and fx etc. Ah well. At least it's a load of fun! :] Fish
hogwarden posted Mon, 14 April 2003 at 5:36 AM
I don't have to worry about mouse callouses. I hold the mouse still and will the universe to move around it. It's a chi thing. H:)
Simderella posted Mon, 14 April 2003 at 6:12 AM
HAHAHAHA!!!! I didn't know anyone else thought about this.. LOL I have an optical mouse so i don't use a mouse pad.... i don't really have a callous.. but a red & shiney patch of skin.. hehehe. so attractive.. LOL
GigaRoc posted Mon, 14 April 2003 at 9:45 AM
yall sould switch to a rollerball
Kinouk posted Mon, 14 April 2003 at 9:58 AM
This is Monday, right!! This is very entertaining..learned a lot about callous LOL. Hugz
BeatYourSoul posted Mon, 14 April 2003 at 10:59 AM
GigaRoc, I use a "trackball" (rollerball, whatever). ;) I use a Logitech with a "thumb" ball. Prefer the other way, but haven't found one that I like - mostly Microsoft crap. No callous, but was having wrist pain from keyboard and trackball until I got the supports. Now, no pain. BYS
CryptoPooka posted Mon, 14 April 2003 at 12:47 PM
Nope, a mild mouse callus ... ... but I do have Hacker's Fingers. Calluses on the tips of every finger but thumbs and pinkys, and they're on the side of my thumbs instead.
PLZ posted Mon, 14 April 2003 at 4:03 PM
I use a 15 year old Cirque GlidePoint Trackpad(touchtablet).No calluses,from the pad.
Blackhearted posted Mon, 14 April 2003 at 4:40 PM
well folks, noone else has posted any pics of a larger mouse callous, and i think its unanimous that laurie's callous is the mightiest one of all, so i declare her the winner of the first annual redweb mouse callous awards! congratulations laurie! ill mail off your cd as soon as i can burn it and get to the post office. perhaps for next years awards well have a larger pic turnout and more 'sponsors'... rofl :) cheers, -gabriel
sabretalon posted Tue, 15 April 2003 at 6:23 AM
Hey I'd like to tell you about my calluses. You see they are on my knees, don't know how they got there! But on the other hand, xcuse the pun, remember the old sweat bands that they used to wear when playing tennis or squash? Get some of those and wear one when using your mouse. Try to get new ones not used because they tend to be a bit wiffy. You may also be bringing in a new fashion dress code, put on you snorkel jacket your sweat bands top it off with the sweat headband and you have the new geek look, if you do have a callous then give it a name, draw a face on it. Remember a calous is for life and not just for xmas.
layingback posted Tue, 15 April 2003 at 1:11 PM
No callous, but re sabretalon's sweat band idea, try Cosy Cuffs from Historic House Collection, +44 01 295 750100. They are modern versions of "gloves" originally used years ago by people who needed full finge/hand dexterity. Verco fastening sheepskin lined cuffs which keep the hands warm by preventing the heat loss from the blood vessels near the surface of the wrist. If they worked for poachers and the like over a century ago, they should work now. Ensuring a warm wrist seems like it should reduce incidence of future carpal damage, and it also keeps the wrist up off the desk. So light and comfortable you'll forget your wearing them. It'll raise the wrist just enough to unload the callous. Come in pairs so your set for life, unless you mouse with 2 hands ;-) Also I second (or third) the Logitech Trackman with thumbball. I never could use a trackball comfortably, but trackman seemed intuitve from day one, accurate and fast. And my hand never moves. Use the softest mouse pad you can find just as a comfortable soft rest and you're set. A startup was supposed to be launching a vertical mouse by now, although I've not seen it yet. Whole mouse is turned 90 deg, so your palm stays vertical. Imagine the optical sensor of your mouse being moved to be on the vertical right side of a normal mouse, and then the mouse turned on it's side to get the optical part pointing down again. Initial reviews were very positive. Whole new surface of skin & bone to wear away at :-O
Dragonsbld posted Wed, 16 April 2003 at 7:32 AM
hmm... mouse callus showdown... sorry i don't have one to show... I do however have what one might think is one big callus, which some might call my hand... rough factory work for long hours and brief brakes, tends to do that.. plus i've got carpultunnel (can't spell by the way) syndrome in my right hand (which is my mouse hand)
BeatYourSoul posted Wed, 16 April 2003 at 10:43 AM
Ouch, that's bad. Carpal tunnel syndrome is where the "tunnel" (a ligament) at the wrist that sheathes the tendons and nerves going to the fingers gets crushed or squeezed and causes pinching and inflammation of the nerve. The resulting symptoms are tingling, numbness, or pain in the hand. This is a difficult problem to overcome and have known people to have taken several years to heal and sort of return to normal. This can also result in tendonitis (inflammation of the tendon). One of my close friends ended up with it from improper lessons on guitar speed techniques and couldn't play for over a year. Me, I felt it coming in my right hand from excessive typing and trackballing without support. The support has really helped and I remain conscientious about how my wrists feel while working on the computer. If you play an instrument, be very aware of the possible damage that one can incur by improper and excessive repetitive tasks involving your hands. Use support, take frequent breaks, and be aware of awkward positions, feelings, numbness, and stresses on the hands and wrists (as well as your back!). BYS P.S. I'm not a doctor and nobody would allow me to play one on TV! :)
LaurieA posted Wed, 16 April 2003 at 10:52 AM
A former coworker of mine had carpal tunnel in both wrists that she had to have operated on. It took her a year to recover from each one (they did them individually). It can be pretty devastating, especially if you work with your hands. My problem (being a graphic artist) isn't carpal tunnel - yet. I used to get screaming pains in my right elbow (I'm right-handed). I couldn't for the life of me figure out why until one day it dawned on me that I would press down so hard when doing pasteup - cutting out the elements actually - that I was screwing up my elbow. It used to hurt so bad that sometimes it made me cry at night because I couldn't sleep. Thank the Lord we switched over to computer layout! LOL. You'd think that something as low impact as computer work wouldn't cause anyone any harm, but there is plenty that can harm you, all the way from carpal tunnel, to problems with shoulder and elbow joints, back problems and even some cases of brain cancer from constant exposure to the radiation from computer monitors (I don't think that's the problem it once was). Even your eyes suffer. So much for a "safe" job...lol. Laurie