Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Problem With The Tailor 1.1 Need Help!

danny7 opened this issue on Apr 20, 2003 ยท 10 posts


danny7 posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 5:02 PM

I've been using The Tailor 1.1 for some time and I'm not always successful at getting the clothes to fit the model. I'm following the instructions closely, but occasionally I can still see a buttock or a breast sticking out. Are there limitations as to what can be done with Tailor? Will only certain kinds of clothing work? Are there any really well-detailed tutorials anywhere that'll answer all the questions anyone could possibly have?


SamTherapy posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 7:09 PM

I just bought this today, so I'll be looking out for answers, too.

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mickey2 posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 8:36 PM

I'm having the same problems, and finding an inclusive and well stated (step by step)tutorial is a real pain. I have seen some good stuff come out of this program. But I feel that there is a little something that everyone that knows how to use this program is holding back, maybe just to make all us new users pull out our hair !! Is there anyone out there, that can take a simple model like blackhearted's Angelyna and step by step tell us how to tailor the cat suit to fit with out leaving out stuff like , should you not use the FBM, or should you not use the group morphs, or should you use them both. Or should you delete all the previous morphs before you start , or just what is the secret, for God's sake ! Thanks to anyone with the know how and the time !! And before you ask ,Yes I read the F***ing Manual ! (LOL) Screen shots speak louder than words !


lalverson posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 9:42 PM

Afraid there is no such thing really. And for figures like angelyna you really cannot, since they really don't have a body MT. Many of blackhearted's ladies are done with some MT that are standard to the vicky it's for and a good deal of scaling. Now what I do is load the various items in taylor and load over many of the body MT (Muscular,tone,pear and the like) and a few of the breast MT and them safe the thing. then when I wanna use one I load and tweak/scale as needed. A side note to taylor, is that it approximates MT and doesn't realy copy them, since the vert are different from the figure to the clothes in relation. So taylor will be close and in some cases fit and convert spot on. With some meshes it will work but the mesh cannot take the full MT setting of 1.


mickey2 posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 9:46 PM

It is possible that my problem might be after I bring both parts into poser. It appears that I have too many morphs working at the same time. If I play with the dials for the appropriate morphs I get little or no response, so I just keep messing with them (in frustration)turning them forward, backwards, anyway at all after a while, I just go drink a Beer and say *&%$ it !(LOL)


mickey2 posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 9:52 PM

Still in the dark, this may be just wasted money, It won't be the first time, a Poser miracle (" ") didn't do half of what everyone said it would. I try always to remember that the BIG PRINT giveth, and the fine PRINT TAKETH AWAY !(lol)


leather-guy posted Sun, 20 April 2003 at 11:03 PM

Have you tried spawning your own morph from the figure and then re-importing it to a blank Victoria with a new name like "MickeyMorph1" or some such, then setting it to "1" and using that in Tailor? Seems like that may work. I haven't tried using Tailor myself, but most members who've tried it, including some with self-admitted learning disabilities, have managed some success with it, according to the posts I've seen here. If nothing else, perhaps after the Easter weekend, you'll get more constructive advice that will suit your specific inquiry?


wissim posted Mon, 21 April 2003 at 12:57 AM

I have also use Tailor 1.1 and I must agree that with some mesh it work out quite well but not with others. To be fair, I think Tailor 1.1 is written base on DAZ Victoria and the Victoria clothing Pak 1, so if you use most of them should have no problem and require just minimum morph and tweaking. However this may not be true for other clothing as new items come out everyday. I also agree with lalverson that so far I am not able to find any step by step tutorial for any specify clothing. However, while exploring all the comments here why not try using magnets on the clothing. I think so far Wyrmmaster's mastery has demonstrate the power of this technique. Besides I think this technique is more straight forward. So try and use it on the cloths for minor adjustment. I am no expert myself but I have use this technique to make small adjustments in clothing so far. Moreover, there are definitely more step by step tutorials for magnets than Tailor1.1. Alternatively, if you are Poser5 user, you may want to try dynamic clothing.


FishNose posted Mon, 21 April 2003 at 4:17 AM

Mickey, Tailor does work, it's not a rip off. But it has limitations. It's not as good at approximating morphs that make the cloth SMALLER (pull vertices together) as it is at making bigger MTs. So BreastSize 1 will work so-so, BreastSize 6 will be fine, that sort iof thing. Especially clothing with very high vertex counts doesn't work well. Also, the main issue with Tailor is to work out how to use the app - there are a lot of different ways to configure and use it. I sometimes spend many hours tranfering MTs to just one cloth - some of them as groups, some as body morphs, some individually, depending on how they work and combine with other morphs. There is no such thing as too many morphs - I have pieces of clothing with hundreds and hudreds of tailor-made MTs in them that work fine, including catsuits and the like. Danny, you will always get peek-through. No avoiding that. There's a huge amount of dial tiddling required sometimes to get away from it, for each variation of a pose. To avoid it altogether, you need P5 and dynamic cloth. That's the only way - collision detection. :] Fish


evilded777 posted Mon, 21 April 2003 at 4:14 PM

I'm with Fishnose... it works. Do you need care in handling the tailor? You betcha. It can be flaky. I have had the same problem with morphs that don't work after translation. Usually, I will just scrap it and then work start again. Fish is also right about making things bigger rather than smaller... small doesn't work so well, but big works like a charm. I have had great luck with blackhearted's Elowen... check my gallery for Kinks from Ef at runtimedna and the DAZ Olympians morphed for Elowen. I read a step-by-step tutorial somewhere... hmmm. If I find it I will pass it along e.d.