Well I got slammed down to a blue screen last night and just now got everything straightened out and up and running again. This happened last service release, and I think it has something to do with how it's affecting my ram. Got the same type of messages this time that I got last time about not being able to access certain memory blocks, which was cleared up in the last crash by changing the memory pages. Thinking about giving up on poser 5, not worth it to me to lose work like I did this morning. Marque