gud day, i do not intend to offend anybody but i do want to pour out my sentiments for the ongoing onslaught agaist the talent and artworks the WE the Brysters do. I've surfed recently, and tried to look at the forums of numerous sites with regards to tutorials on using 3dmax since im trying my best to learn the product, when i stumbled on a certain thread tha goes on like this... Bryce? or MAX? obviously bryce is no match for MAx... but i was offended (indirectly) with what other see in us Brysters! upon reading all the comments I to a conclusion the the other 3D artist regard US as... hobbiest or even less, and not an equal 3D Artist! Now i may be wrong thats why im posting this tread because it pains me to think that all those sleepless night of thinking and modelling is useless because im not REALLY a 3d artist, just aother guy pretending to know 3D when in fact he does not... This is what they have to say: 1.Bryce is and easy way out program that does not reall do any great 3D art, it a Pretend 3D program 2.People who uses bryce are not really talented coz they use to create images the EASY way 3. Brysters are not really 3d artist, digital artist maybe, but not 3d Artist. 4. Learning Bryce is pointless and just a waste of time 5. Bryce has never been recognized as good program to use on creating great images... 5 years or well it could have been good, but now? its child's play. They had a few more comments but thats how i could summarize all of it... i hope anybody can enlighten me on this coz it really offends me... (Forever loving bryce no matter what!) EYECON