Hi Ok folks the story goes like this.... well I created a character using V3 I thorght I know I'll save her as a pz3 that should save all the settings without having to use up more of my library space (directories getting full with mat and mor files) more fool me just tried to reload file and all dials gone back to zero! can someone help by suggesting how to get settings back or point me to how to avoid this problem again. thanks Dave the foolish