Ya know...sometimes it takes weeks to get something going...and sometimes things just seem to work without much effort. I was bored for a while at work awaiting projects to come back...so I played with laying out this texture in the seam guide (which I keep at work..just in case (damn I am an addict))...so I come home and render, and this is what it turned out like. Not bad for a half hour of play :) Any comments/suggetions? Rawnrr