Anyway, I'm still on this quest for brushed stainless steel... Why? I don't know.. :) But be that as it may, due to the peculiarities of Vue I get the following results... If you look at the cube, it kinda has that effect, but it doesn't look like metal.. If you minimize the bump, it looks worse and worse... Now look at the tea kettle.. I have to minimize the bump immensely to get something kinda natural looking.. Look at the reflections.. Even if I put reflections at zero and highlights at next to nothing, I get no change, same reflection... Even though the material is mapped for a cylinder, it doesn't look at that good... I made the texture in photopaint and brought it into vue, forget about usign procedural textures... So, does anybody have a clue as to how to make brushed stainless steel that looks like the real thing whether on an flat surface or a cylindrical surface... Any info appreciated, thanks...