I've been getting so much great information from your Renderosity folks, information that I've been able to apply to my Poser work, and get very pleasing results (at least I'm pleased!)Thanks to all of you who offer opinions and expertise. I also want to balance all the complaining about Poser 5 by saying, bugs and all, I wouldn't be able to create the images I'm creating without this great and affordable product. I also want to say Judy rocks. You can make her "fat" by simply adjusting the scale dials on her body parts. Try doing this with V3, and you get a friggin' mess! Up with simplicity--up with Judy! Up with Poser!